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Recently had an argument with my conservative father, he's always been big into Trek and Wars, and I had just started really watching Trek again, never watched a lot of the shows all the way through. So this father of mine started going on about how woke Trek was now, and I just lost it on him, I just get so tired of the "anti-woke" nonsense and he just finds some way to insert it into every conversation. So I was like "oh no, not woke Star Trek, the series about a socialist utopia, the series that holds the title of "the American show with the first interracial kiss", the show where Kirk throws his dick at every species with a quim, the show that had a Ruskie character in the middle of the f'n Red Scare." Star Trek was always woke, and my father was always too dumb, racially biased, and narcissistic to pick up on the lessons that they were trying to teach us when he watched it as a child in the 60's.

I have not even tried to bring up Star Wars since the Disney acquisition, I'm sure my father has an insufferable take on that series now as well.

At this point media illiteracy is a requirement to be a Republican.

There is a weird right-wing contingent of Trekkies who think it's all about pew pew fights with the Borg and they confuse the rest of us who love the idea of a socialist utopia where indigenous cultures are respected and people try to talk things out before shooting in hostile situations.

“ Star Wars is bad now”

I mean yah, the vertical integration, means tested everything, nostalgia bating and assembly line techniques that Disney does sure do ruin otherwise fine properties.

“No, I don’t mind that, that’s just good business. I just hate the gay people who kissed in the background”

Oh, OH ok, you’re just an idiot…

She's so much of a Trekkie she did the LL&P sign backwards

StAr tReK is TOO DIVERSE, tHatS wHy I lIkE Babylon 5!

[insert heavy breathing and unchecked drooling]

the concept of science fiction is way to librul, since it suggests that science is real

I would have thought they’d be more of a Starship Troopers fan, since the satire would fly over the fash’s head.

Money doesn't exist in Star Trek but credits do in Star Wars.

update even got dragged by george takei

Attempts and fails at Vulcan greeting.

I know she's smarter, better, and stronger than I and would find a way to help explain and educate this woman on how she's pissing into the wind wrong....

But I can't help but imagine Janeway just kicking the shit out of that foxbot on principle and for the security of the federations reputation.

Post scarcity societies can't be approached in any meaningful way with modern economic theories.

Star Trek is neither socialist nor capitalist, as both are systems designed to manage and portion out scarcity, and are based on economic theories that lack any predictive abilities in systems that don't work in a context of scarce resources that need administration.

Neither the labour theory of value nor marginal utility theory make any sense when all resources are trivial to obtain for individuals and whatever resources your community uses can be reused virtually endlessly within the limits of entropy.

Star Wars is literally space conservatives rebelling against the galactic communist (1970s US propagandized version of invented communism-fascist aesthetic*) empire...

Firefly is to an even greater degree, like libertarian Browncoats rebelling. I love the fan fic take that the Alliance were the "good guys."

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one

Tell me you're not really a fan of either franchise without telling me.

I've seen the anti-woke Star Trek.

I had to stop when they invaded space Iraq due to WMD's.

Just say you don't watch sci fi movies. Sheesh so desperate to fit in. Why does everyone want to be a nerd now? Didn't boomers invent beating up nerds???

Do these people think before they fucking talk?

A good video exploring how conservatives enjoy star trek.