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I have met conservative Trek fans. I think some people really do watch stuff without ever thinking about it beyond its superficial spectacle.
It’s like conservative Always Sunny fans.
It’s like conservatives with [insert 99% of media they consume, excluding Fox “news”]
Lol yeah fair enough
They thought Colbert wasn’t playing an absurd caricature of a right wing pundit when he was doing the Report
It is worth noting that the rapist Bill O'Reilly knew, because it was so blindly obviously a parody of him, and whatever else you might say of him he isn't outright stupid.
The interesting bit is Ol Rapey Bill has quotes about Jan 6th saying his Fox would never have downplayed or enabled it, and yet, he's now supporting Trump in 2024.
It's almost like the actual truth doesn't matter to them. Like they just want a comfortable lie that benefits them personally, some kind of "Truthiness" perhaps.
Any echo chamber can produce illusory truth effect. Repeated exposure to misinformation can result in a person failing to identify it as a lie, and begin to register it as fact and the lie gets amplified.
Except the only real echo chamber is the one between their ears.
Best White House Correspondents Dinner ever.
It's like he's writing trumps speeches for him there!
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They view the show as a documentary, not a comedy.
IASP is a pretty funny show. Even the most recent season was gold, covering inflation during covid.
There are a surprisingly high number of educated conservatives in the high tech fields, engineers/programmers/etc.
It's sad :/
One of the smartest people i knew was a former systems designer for NASA, I live close enough to the Cape to watch every launch from my backyard, anyway, this guy definitely worked for NASA, had his office decorated with the Patents that he held, really smart guy, complete conspiracy nut who was immediately on the Trump train.
I've always loved conspiracies too and we got along through that stuff, but then he went down the rabbit hole of Right wing and Russian propaganda/disinformation and no matter how much i tried to prove everything wrong, with good evidence, he went deeper down that hole, he died during COVID and one of the last things he sent me was about the "stolen election", it was after January 6, to which my reply was "do you mean the 2016 election or the 2000 election?" and never got a response back and I'd heard he passed away a few months later from a mutual friend.
My dad navigated satellites and exploration probes for NASA his entire career, even doing work in getting better climate data. He's a total MAGA and FOX loyalist now. Misses Bill O'Reilly and Tucker Carlson.
The educated laborers that perform highly skilled labor convince themselves that they have it better than everyone else because Capitalism worked and selected for them, it's a comfy and delusional position to hold that requires having absolutely zero self-awareness. Unfortunately common.
Fear and prejudice transcends all education.
Same with conservative Fallout fans that somehow unironically think it's pro-Capitalism, despite nearly every instance of actual Capitalism and not just bartering being absurdly evil.
Because muh rugged individual
It's worse than that, it's the unironic Legion, House, and Enclave support that's absurd.
Sheesh. Satire really ain't shit to a fascist
"You know those Ferengi really have some good ideas..."
I couldn't imagine not being able to enjoy a show without believing in it.
"This show is phenomenal, I will describe myself as a fan. I hate its ideology and the vision that drove it."
I can't name a single show like that for me.
Breaking Bad
What underlying ideology or vision did you not care for, though?
The base satire that none of this would have happened under socialized medicine. Enjoyed the show despite hating all of the characters in it. It's hard for me to watch but I know quality when I see it, the personalities portrayed are just so fucking aggravating. Some episodes of Star Trek i don't mind, I find the socialist utopia underpinnings childish and vapid, hand wavery, but that's just the backdrop, theyve some good actors depending on series, occasionally good scripts. Discovery can suck my ass though.
There is no “base satire” in Breaking Bad about socialised healthcare. You didn’t understand the show at all - he was given an opportunity to work his way out but chose to be a meth dealer because Walt couldn’t stomach further hits to his ego. Sure, there are valid comments it makes about the nature of being up against a heartless system but it doesn’t blame Walt’s decision on that system.
Somebody didn't.