Plaintiff are seeking up to $43m in damages in defamation case and Giuliani’s lawyer tells court it would ‘be the end’ of him if he loses
So the lawyer is saying the justice system is working as intended?
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I see this as an absolute win
Me too, and I love the "if you punish my client, it will be bad for him" argument. That's clearly the sign of a good lawyer.
It's the best argument he's got, and can you blame him? There isn't a lawyer alive who could win this for old ink scalp. His only hope is a stacked court.
This should be taught in law school in Trial Law 101: best defense
“Your honor, this verdict is horrible for my client. Move for a mistrial.”
“Ah good point, didn’t think of that. Wouldn’t want to inconvience this man. Granted”
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The dildo of consequences is approaching rapidly, and he's fresh out of lube.
gotta be careful. even a back-pat can kill him, you know.
(also... be extra mindful of safe sex. fucking this guy is how you catch all the STDs... and some new and interesting ones.)
Only his family members have to worry about STDs from him.
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Good time for Giuliani to find those bootstraps to pull himself up. Maybe cut back on the avocado toast and Netflix. If he has a phone on him, means he's won't be poor and bankrupt, just lazy.
Four Seasons Total Landscaping
He was just tucking his shirt in.
Still the funniest press conference in world history.
And it was incredible before Giuliani found out live that the election was called.
Former Time Person of the Year, America's Mayor, and someone who once stood a realistic chance of becoming president.
What a fall from grace.
If only he'd retired at 65.
Makes you realize, like Trump, that all of those accomplishments were the result of his PR team and the mainstream media's propaganda machine — he succeeded in spite of his own stupidity and incompetence.
A lot of it also had to do with being mayor of NY when 9/11 happened.
Before 9/11, he wasn’t that popular of a mayor.
Or even after. A lot of the blame for 9/11 was layed at his feet for putting a major communications center in the towers after it had already been attacked once in the 90s.
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Rudy had one of the longest lucky streaks in human history. He won the NYC Mayor's race because he was the Federal prosecutor who took down Donald Manes, a big Queens County Democratic boss. He got plenty of press coverage, but the truth was that the actual story was broken by Jimmy Breslin. Crime rates were already going down across the country when he became NY mayor, his boasts of beign a great crime fighter don't hold up. Then he became 'America's Mayor.' He made it to third on three errors but thought he hit a triple.
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A jury decision awarding tens of millions of dollars in damages for defamation would be a “death penalty” for Rudy Giuliani, his lawyer said during opening statements in a trial that got underway Monday.
Hand me the soap, I need to cry a few tears for him.
Well, if it ruins him, it works as intended. He put them through hell and back with his lies, now it's ample time he pays up. I mean, it should suite him, as he is such a law and order guy.
Oh no, he’ll lose everything and become working class again! The death of a bourgeois! You can’t do this, judge! He’s supported to be protected by the system! 😱
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It's not like wealthy people ever go broke anyways. Look at Alex Jones, owes millions in judgments but is still spending to the tune of 100k a month, and still making million and is on tv, etc. How is that broke and how is he not being forced to live in a trailer park till his judgments are paid? Any one of us owes money, they'll put you on the streets, literally, to get their money. But rich people get to go on being rich, even when they owe millions.
Yes, I understand why debtor's prisons are a bad thing for poor people. But, it does make me wish that rich people could end up locked up if they were unable to pay debts, especially when the debts are the result of fraud, defamation, and other crimes against innocent people.
Maybe sentence them to living in a halfway house with an ankle monitor on until they can pay what they owe. During the day they get to rant on their internet shows and try to drum up money. But, at night they have to report back to the halfway house and deal with their roommates and so-on.
I mean, why sentence them to anything? Seize their assets and garnish their wages until the debt is paid.
It's what happens to everyone else.
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I'm sure his great friend Donald Trump will be happy to make Rudy whole; it's pocket change to the world's richest man!
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Trump could probably bail him out. He won't though. Fascists have contempt for the weak. Trump likely despises Giuliani now.
Trump has been broke for years. He personally doesn't drink, but sold his name to 'Trump Vodka.' He took a $1 billion bath when he brought and then had to sell The Plaza Hotel in NYC. He's a terrible dealmaker, but loves to play the big shot. He is a total joke to the real NYC wheeler dealers.
Here's a link to my favorite Trump story; the tldr is that he was given a golden opportunity to get in good with the Manhattan elites and blew it all through his own arrogance, greed, and stupidity.
the time to consider whether you can serve the penalty for breaking the law is before you break the law, not after. if you don't have tens of millions of dollars, don't purposely cause tens of millions of dollars in damage.
Not sure I see a problem here
Fucked around and found out.
Can’t wait for his criminal convictions.
Humanity won't miss him
I don't see how this is a death sentence. Plenty of other people have gone bankrupt without dying.
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Maybe Rudy shouldn't have said and done things that could cost him so much money then.
As Republicans like to say: "if you can't do the time, don't do the crime".
If I was the judge I'd interpret this as him having made suicidal threats to his council. And I'd place a psychiatric hold so he gets the help he apparently needs.
I like former New York mayor's who aren't involved with defamation crimes.
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I wonder if he ever thought to himself, “Now how did I get here?”
I wonder he ever tells himself, "This is not my beautiful house."
And you may tell yourself, "This is not my beautiful ~~wife~~ cousin.”
First of all, bullshit lmao
Second of all, I'd be OK with that even if it wasn't bullshit: These treasonous assholes shouldn't be allowed to get away with their many, many crimes.
Careful not to put him under too much pressure or his hair will start leaking
that drama queen facing any amount of justice is certain to result in legendary amounts of whining and crying
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Eight jurors were seated in Giuliani’s defamation case. Jurors were asked several questions, including, “Do you believe that Joseph R Biden’s election as president of the United States in 2020 was illegitimate?” and “Have you ever used the phrase “Let’s Go Brandon” or the term or hashtag “WWG1WGA”?
According to his lawyer, who has been paid up front.
I hope people in Trump's circle pay attention, because it will happen to you too
Get fukt
Was Rudy like this before his involvement with Trump? All the smart people are saying that Trump guy is a bad influence.
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