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[–] [email protected] 211 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

A lot of conservatives think trrmp is a traitor, too.

I mean, they should. The evidence provides.

But they usually think he betrayed the extremes of their bigotries rather than the country and general decency.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (8 children)

That's good news for the coming election. But I still fear he won't ever be punished for his numerous crimes, the biggest yet to come, the pedo rape connections from the Epstein papers.

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[–] CaptainKickass 191 points 5 months ago (8 children)

They also said he was a terrible shot.

I'm not even kidding. He tried out for the school shooting club and they asked him not to come back because they considered his poor shooting and gun handling dangerous.

[–] YarHarSuperstar 111 points 5 months ago (1 children)

school shooting club

Maybe they should name it something else...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

No, I think that's an accurate description

[–] Snailpope 49 points 5 months ago (9 children)

LMFAO! I had a feeling he was conservative. It don't know about a terrible shot, he got damn close but if his school had a shooting club he was probably still better than someone untrained but could still be bad enough not to make the team. Like when I got cut from golf, a no cut sport, half way through the first day

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (4 children)

He's a bad shot because anyone with any bit of training or even youtube experience knows to aim center mass. More chance of hitting. I picked up shooting for sport in 2017 and can hit center mass with iron sites at the distance this kid was. With my cheapo scope, I can hit out to 300 yards.

He tried lolz x-gamer headshot and failed miserably.

[–] davidgro 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he did aim for the center...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

And that would be even worse for a stationary target.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He had a lot of shots, at least three, so I'm not even sure he aimed at the head. If the story about the policeman distracting him is true, it means a boy on adrenalin tried his best to keep his aim straight in a hurry. I believe hitting Trump at all was an accident.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

This. I'm guessing that police man actually saved trumps life because the attempt had to be carried out in a rush and with at least a mild shock still in the system.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Trump was almost certainly wearing a vest

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A hit to a vest definitely has a real chance to kill him. Vests distribute the impact, but they're still massive chest trauma for a 70-something dude.

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[–] Carmakazi 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No way would USSS be able to get his fat ass to wear a vest consistently, let alone the plates needed to stop a rifle round. In this heat?

Though I'm sure now he may reconsider, or be forced to.

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[–] voldage 25 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Imagine if his motivation was to prove he had great aim and that they did him wrong. Maybe he just wanted to become the most well known sniper-assassin in the modern world. Maybe that's the reason he didn't use scope, he wanted his memory to be that of the rifle maverick. I wonder what went through his head after he realised he missed. I mean, other than a bullet.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Maybe he was aiming at a suspiciously Antifa-looking person in the crowd and missed?

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 5 months ago (4 children)

“It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Trump is the Republican candidate, but anyone young enough to actually believes in conservative talking points would not see him as a conservative candidate and would see him as a threat to the party.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Who's to say he didn't just want to die and take someone important out with him. In the mental state he was in at the time, he may not have even cared about politics.

[–] BrokenGlepnir 78 points 5 months ago (6 children)

I was thinking there's no proof he didn't do this to impress Jodie Foster. We may never completely understand

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Narrator:

Jodie Foster was not impressed.

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[–] Rapidcreek 72 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It was a horrible incident and there is no room for violence in politics…

That said, I am relieved to know that the shooter is neither an immigrant nor a person of color, or a trans person. And not someone on the left. The violent backlash from the right would be unbearable/unthinkable otherwise.

But, rifles are an old way of doing things, and predict that there will be more political violence through the next years.

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[–] inclementimmigrant 60 points 5 months ago

And not one Republican or prominent journalist will point out that this is mostly due to the decade of rhetoric from the conservatives that political violence is the answer.

[–] Treczoks 31 points 5 months ago (11 children)

First: As conservatives love bible quotes: Hosea 8,7: "They sow the wind and reap the whirlwind." Boy, did Trump sow wind everywhere. And Thomas Crooks simply was the whirlwind this time.

Second: Each and every year, about 50,000 people in the US die from guns, and politics f-ing does not care. Because they love the money from arms manufaturers and votes from the gun nuts more than the mostly innocent people who die. But once the wrong asshole gets his ear nicked by a bullet, they suddenly fall over themselves condemning violence.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (43 children)

So…. Why then? Was he one of those rare conservatives that don’t like Trump? I think I’ve only ever met maybe one or two.

[–] tacosplease 18 points 5 months ago

There is a growing movement within conservative groups that want Trump out of the way so a more competent politician can enact their crazy goals more effectively. Nick Fuentes is one example.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 12 points 5 months ago

It is though any groups of people is not a monolith who perfectly toe the line with each other.

[–] Jackfinished 11 points 5 months ago

They usually don't talk about it because either they are lumped into trump supporters or attacked by the former for being a liberal pansy.

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[–] Sam_Bass 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One good deed does not redeem the entire sect

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 16 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Was it really a good deed though? Because by missing, he gave Trump a shit load of political ammunition.

Trump is going to take this crisis and abuse it for every vote it gets him, and it's gonna get him a lot.

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[–] DynoNoob 14 points 5 months ago (4 children)

If Trump were to trip down the stairs and break his neck, that would be one thing. Becoming a martyr is another. And becoming a martyr while still alive is even worse.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 13 points 5 months ago

But the investigators say he “had no strongly held political beliefs”.

IOW he’s republican and they don’t want to broadcast it?

[–] Rakonat 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My money is the kid saw the 2025 agenda and despite being a conservative leaning person was still appalled at the idea people would vote for a fascist again.

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