BrokenGlepnir

I feel that was more of an offering.

Maybe I implied that? I didn't mean to. Where did I say that. But the conspiracy theory you are referring to isn't that it forced joe Biden to send weapons (and yes he's a piece of shit for doing it, it's immoral). At least I don't know where I said that specifically (if trump calls someone I don't know how that forced joe Biden to do anything)

I didn't say that again. The all capital thing, I did not say that. I didn't say that Trump forced Biden to support anyone.

Israel couldn't have gone until the election without him? I don't know how much they have in store, but I assumed it was significant. Maybe I'm wrong there. They probably wouldn't have gone as hard, but there was no guarantee they would stop. There is certainly something different about trump saying stop it and Biden saying it. Are you assuming it's that Trump attached it to shipments? I don't know what is different myself. It could be several things. I'm not discounting the possibilities. He says it's his manly voice, and while that drips with sarcasm, I mean it could be? Maybe bidens a wimp and that was the difference. But... I'm also not discounting possibilities that disagree with that.

I didn't say that Donald Trump forced the weapon shipments. I said he could have told Israel to not negotiate until now. I'd say it's a brain dead idea that Biden never said "stop it" once. Those weapon shipments will continue now regardless, and now the genocide will just be moved back to a cold phase until something happens,or it is complete.

You know maybe nothing would have changed if trump hadn't contacted them before the election. I can give you that. Maybe they'd still be doing and there wouldn't be a ceasefire if things had gone differently. But also, maybe this could have happened months ago had those calls not taken place. And maybe this could have happened months ago had he called after the beginning of November. After all, it just took one phone call right? I don't know everything hypothetical. And now there is a ceasefire for the moment, which is good.

Or maybe he didn't use any additional leverage and just pulled a Ronald Reagan. Or maybe he did use a form of leverage you aren't mentioning, offered to give them something when they stop, which a. Wouldn't necessarily be bad but also b. Wouldn't necessarily be mutually exclusive with pulling what Reagan did with Carter.

I did not say he couldn't, I said trump got in the way. Then I asked what did trump do now that joe Biden didn't the past six months after Donald called Bibi last year. Why didn't he do this two months ago. And you bring up Reagan. It's like you know about Mr. Keep the hostages until I'm in office.

I didn't say he was powerless. I said what leverage did Donald Trump use that joe Biden didn't and you cannot answer me. What beyond asking please did he do!

He will give in 90 days probably. I don't know, or once he's got you on his side he'll change course and now you may feel stuck on his side. Biden also started the extention but no one will care

The us president can't order Israel without some kind of threat. That's not a threat. I bet Biden never said "stop I want to win this election" to Israel. Trump did call Israel during the election and said likely said "keep going I want to win this election"

Edit: I said threat, but there could also be an offer. What did he offer or threaten that Biden didn't? Or was it just the same, but Israel would not see the way or on the horizon?

What did trump actually do? What exactly did he say? I've gotten into arguments with people on this platform who can't say how he got Israel to accept the deal, but also with a guy who thought it was the threats to Hamas (which is ridiculous, I don't think it was Hamas refusing this ceasefire deal). What did he actually say to Israel, that Biden didn't? All I can think of is he stopped saying that Israel can get even more, which means they were only keeping this up because he promised they could have even more. Maybe I'm wrong. Is there a source that says he threatened to withhold arms?