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A lot of conservatives think trrmp is a traitor, too.
I mean, they should. The evidence provides.
But they usually think he betrayed the extremes of their bigotries rather than the country and general decency.
That's good news for the coming election. But I still fear he won't ever be punished for his numerous crimes, the biggest yet to come, the pedo rape connections from the Epstein papers.
He's half a billion in the hole and is a historically convicted felon, he's definitely facing consequences. Also, his own zealots are shooting at him.
I want to see what happens with the election from fraud scheme.
My largest concern is the supreme Court granting the President actual immunity.
I keep hearing about some pedophile case with Twermp here, but I don't know what everybody is talking about, did something new come out?
A judge released the Epstein papers recently, with the names all numbered 'doe', to protect the rich and famous pedophiles from the public eye. Sleuthers on the internet have match trumps movements and actions up to 'doe 174' as most likely as trump. Some suspect the shooter motives might be because of this reason.
Maybe what I saw was fake but I saw what seemed to be a legal document laying out that Trump and Epstein competed to see who could rape a 12 year old first, and Trump won.
I saw the same document. It was thoroughly disgusting and more or less describes what you said. I'm not making excuses for anyone, but they're also just allegations. I would very much like to see them demonstrated in a court of law, but I don't know that that's really possible at this point.
The part that sticks with me now is how they actually treated the girls like they weren't real people. They were interchangeable with, say a sports car. The acts described are awful enough, but I worry the mental treatment is what will cause the most damage in the end.
It really makes me sad when you find out the answer to why a lot of these stories never come out in public, is because the victims have such a high rate of suicide and death.
Makes me wonder what it would take to disqualify Trump in the public eye.
I thought that was a couple months ago now, but having been hearing a couple specific references and thought there was something new.
Thanks.
A judge released some grand jury files from the Epstein case recently, which brought new scrutiny on all the files from different related investigations. Trump is mentioned in many of them and some flight records show he flew on Epstein's plane several times. Apparently nothing that's conclusively incriminating.
I remember that from a little while ago, I've just been hearing so much specific pedo stuff about Trump that I thought there might be something new and more incriminating.
He was accused of raping that 13-year-old on Epstein Island, but even under anonymity her identity was discovered and apparently the woman who brought the suit received so many threats that she withdrew the lawsuit.
So there is an actual case tied to him as well.
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/federal-judge-orders-hearing-in-donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-case/
My father, a lifetime Republican before Trump, and still a rather fiscally conservative man, was actually conflicted on whether or it would have been better or worse if Trump had died on that stage. He openly calls the man a Fascist these days.
Trump may be a Republican, but it's actually rather generous to call him a Conservative.
It wouldn't surprise me if someone would think Trump's death might return us to the Conservatism of the past, but I think that's flawed. The Republican party has always been on the wrong side of social politics, and there's no turning back from the stain of fascism on the party.
I mean, in 1865 they were pretty OK.
As weird as it sounds, I believe keeping trump alive is the best bet to win for the Democrats.
Agreed. Right now trump is a flailing baby. If he was dead they could use him as a symbol and say anything they want.
Yea, he's definitely a nominal 'pub, but can't be conservative since he changes his political will constantly.
Twermp is liberally fascist.
Any strategy that will allow him to wield authoritarian power is worthy of pursuit for him.
The shooter was supposedly a fan of history, a history buff. Let's assume the meme about men thinking about the Roman empire was true. The guy might've been a fan of democracy, looked at the fate of the Roman republic, saw the writing on the wall, and decided that he wanted to prevent that, and also make history in some way too.