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A grainy image of his face drew comparisons to Hollywood heartthrobs. A jacket similar to the one he’s wearing on wanted posters is reportedly flying off the shelves. And the words written on the bullets he used to kill a man in cold blood on a sidewalk on Wednesday have become, for some people, a rallying cry.

Four days after a gunman assassinated a top health insurance executive in Midtown Manhattan and vanished, the unidentified suspect has, in some quarters, been venerated as something approaching a folk hero.

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[–] samus12345 15 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Some? I've yet to find anyone not on his side, the most I can find are people sarcastically saying "Oh no, won't someone please catch him..."

What were the words written on the bullets.

Thing is, if they don't catch him, it will inspire a copycat to repeat his tactics.

And I honestly can't even bring myself to say it's a bad thing; this gunman killed a glorified serial killer, a man who is paid to find people buying his product in order to get help for fatal yet curable illnesses, and kill them in order to save costs.

Violence is wrong and should only be used as a last resort, but well, given the circumstances it's hard for me to lose sleep at night....

I legally cannot and will not advocate violence, I stress this, I AM NOT ADVOCATING VIOLENCE, IF YOU'RE PLANNING YOUR OWN VIOLENT ACT I BEG YOU TO RECONSIDER! Everyone out there has at least one other person who loves them, and most high profile violent acts backfire horribly on the perpetrator.

But I will say this. Some men can only be pushed so far until they're at the edge, then they'll grab onto the person who put them there so at least they fall together... And many MANY men are at the edges.

"Those who make peaceful resolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Deny. Defend. Depose.

[–] Maggoty 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

They did the worst thing. They found him, named him, and published a glamour shot. This should have been the school shooting procedure if they didn't want copycats. Instead of an unnamed killer they can vilify they now have the story of a normal, well educated, young man pushed over the edge. An Anti-Hero. I predict one of two things in the next 1-6 years. The death of health insurance or the death of more health insurance executives.

I'd like to take this time to point out that CEOs are cogs in a machine, important, highly placed cogs, but cogs all the same. They couldn't run the place any other way without their majority shareholders firing them. Those are generally groups like Blackrock and Vanguard, (The largest shareholders in UHC). They have that status in many publicly traded companies. This gives them an outsized say in the board composition of companies across the economy; on issues like food, housing, and yes healthcare. If you're looking for a deep state or shadow government, these guys are close as it gets. They don't directly make the twisted policies but they do fire CEOs that don't make the green line go up in any way possible.

Once Americans figure that out I think the rage is going to be surreal in it's magnitude.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

God I hope so

[–] Shelbyeileen 51 points 3 days ago

He's not only hot; he's making an example out of cruel millionaires .. millionaires who prefer money and let people die, without ANY hesitation. So yeah, it's not like being attracted to Dahmer, it's more like being attracted to Katniss Everdeen.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 223 points 4 days ago (2 children)

In grim twist, corporate media tries to guilt people out of having hope

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Media is there to make owners feel good so they are doing just that.

Issue is that working class is not accepting this narrative.

A dead corporate executive is the most unified people have ever been in a generation.

I don't think extra security can save them when entire country wants you dead

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And we now have an entire country open to talking about how much they want corporate executives dead.

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[–] Doorbook 31 points 4 days ago

Three incident in the last 4 years where billionaires owned media got caught lying. Covid, Gaza, and now this. In all of these they didnt gave shit about innocent people dying, finding excuses and twisting words to gaslight people.

[–] Rooty 101 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I see that the corporate owned media is sweating bullets.

Good.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah theyre really crawling for appeal but that means they are afraid. I was really against violent actions like this but after seeing how effective it isni guess im also a radical leftist now instead of just a leftist. If they take the power away from thw people you have to take it back violently.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is what I was trying to tell all ya pacifist bastards, the rich are cowards and only know the language of violence.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In a report this week, the institute found that of the top 10 most-engaged posts on X about the shooting on Wednesday, six “either expressed explicit or implicit support for the killing or denigrated the victim.” The dynamic is similar to the discourse that often emerges after a mass shooting on websites like 4chan and 8chan, where perpetrators of extreme violence become memes themselves, Mr. Goldenberg said, “but what’s disturbing about this is it’s mainstream.”

Get fucked neo-liberal media. What an isane gaslighting comparision. This was a targeted assasination. Are you now afraid that people direct their anger at the sources of it, rather than the peasants killing each other?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

What were the four other posts? CEOs going "Actually, murdering me would be bad."?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

¿Porque no los dos?

[–] DougHolland 132 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I have a right-wing neighbor who voted Trump three times, says climate change is a hoax, and hates me for sometimes wearing a tie-dye jacket, but he says with a grin all over his face, "Did you hear about that insurance CEO who got shot dead?" and he laughs and laughs and gives me a thumbs-up.

America stands united.

[–] Notorious_handholder 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Funnily enough the death of a United Health Care CEO has United Americans in a feeling of well deserved schadenfreude.

[–] AngryRobot 42 points 4 days ago

My trump-loving in-laws are the same. Voted 3 times for shitler, but they're thrilled about this. It's one thing in the news that we can discuss.

[–] Benjaben 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A few more of these and we'll all really see how much we actually agree with one another, and how much the split and hate is manufactured.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Ok but I ain’t even gay and I wanna fuck this man.

[–] [email protected] 162 points 4 days ago

What's grim about it? Of course people are gonna look kindly upon someone who kills a mass murderer.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago

I don't know why they don't just add it to the unsolved pile like all the other murders they see?

[–] Cocodapuf 51 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Is it a twist if nobody is surprised?

Perhaps this should actually read "in grim reality, most see suspect in C.E.O. Killing as Hero or Heartthrob".

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

The number one react on the UHC Facebook announcement about it is the crying laughing emoji. The people have spoken.

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[–] beansbeansbeans 57 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The only grim aspect is how much time, resources, and energy the NYPD has wasted trying to solve this. Statistically, there have been other murders since this one. They should move on and add this to their "unsolved" pile.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

"We don't care when they're poor." -NYPD

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Grim? WTF? The dude is a hero.

We need a French solution to the oligarchy problem and this guy moved us in the right direction.

He's a god damn hero.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's been almost a week. And every day they don't catch him the lower their chances. I'm starting to have hope they'll never catch him.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago

Indeed, this kinda reminds me of Persona 5 where everyone's freaking out about the Phantom Thieves because Kamoshida confessed to his crimes..

[–] [email protected] 100 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I don't condone murder, but I also dont feel sad about a mass murderer being gunned down.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 91 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Someone killing thousands through corporate policies: Not grim.

Someone killing that person: Grim.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

In an alternate universe, Joker is considered a hero because he killed the criminal and the corrupt while Batman allowed them to live. Joker, a hero against the system, the vigilante who is a vigilante and not just status quo, the vigilante the city needed but not the one it deserved. The Joker movie could set a pretty sweet alternate universe.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Childhood is when you idolize Batman, adulthood is when you realize that cheese is very expensive.

[–] CookieOfFortune 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Have you watched the Harley Quinn animated series?

[–] samus12345 4 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago

Cops have long had the Punisher.

Now big Insurance has The Adjuster.

[–] FuryMaker 40 points 4 days ago

I'd say it's grimmer that some people feel sorry for the CEO.

[–] joel_feila 20 points 3 days ago

A twist?! Stupid sexy hitman

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago

Where’s the twist? This is a dumb headline.

Turns out some people can only be pushed so far before they resort to violence.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago

Reality is grim. The twist is romantic.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

America is finally united

Corporate response is buy more security

Is the start of the first corpo war?

Cyberpunk main quest activated?

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[–] TheDemonBuer 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

“It’s being framed as some opening blow in a broader class war..."

That's what many of us are hoping for. But this author, and nearly all other mainstream news outlets can't understand that. They can't understand why we would want a class war, why would we want something so disruptive, so destabilizing, so potentially destructive? It baffles and disturbs them, but that's because they can't, or won't, see the harm being done by the current system. They are blind to the harms of late capitalism, willfully.

For many of us, the problems go much deeper than a few greedy and unethical CEOs, it's the system. The inhumanity of health insurance providers is just a very egregious and obvious tip of the iceberg. This CEO wasn't just some exceptionally bad guy, he was a product of the system. He'll be replaced by another one of thousands and thousands of people who come out of our business or economic schools, and who would have run United Healthcare the same way he did. The problem is a system in which the private profits of a relative few are prioritized over all else; over human well being, and over sustainability and environmental protection. Many of us believe that that system must be abolished and replaced. We don't want war, but if war is what's necessary to destroy this unsustainable and inhumane system, then so be it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If they ever catch the suspect, he's going to have a hell of a defense fund. That's probably why the cops will end up killing him on sight.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago

The pearl clutching from the bourgeois is becoming a bit annoying.

[–] eran_morad 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You drive people to desperation and this is the result. What the fuck else could anyone expect?

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