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[–] mercano 247 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Man is stuck between a rock and a hard place. He doesn’t want to make this election a referendum on abortion, because as we’ve seen in ballot measures in the past two years, he can’t win that fight. However, his base won’t accept anything but a hardline stance. Must suck to be him, couldn’t happen to a worse person.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Same situation where he was almost begging his cult to take the vaccine. You can see him share how important it was, realizing they were gonna lynch him, and immediately kept twisting it over and over until he was on their side again.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

If he hadn't politicized it in the first place it would've been ok, but he saw the blue cities being hit first and so it was initially a benefit because people voting against him were dying. Then his big dumdum a-brain couldn't extrapolate to the future where eventually only people against science would be dying, so he came out against protections. By the time the he realized his cult was dying off it was far too late for them to change their personalities.

[–] Serinus 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While this is all true, I do want to clarify. He was always for the vaccine. Because you take the vaccine and then the problem goes away.

He was always against masking and social distancing, because that hurts the Dow Jones Industrial Average. He cared more about the S&P 500 than he did about the American people.

[–] Pretzilla 18 points 4 months ago

Moreover as Fauci recounts, tiny hands wanted it to be just like the seasonal flu that 'in a few months just goes away'.

His idiot brain wanted it gone by obfuscation and denial.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He put himself there. Remember that in 2012 he was pretty waffley on abortion and then he listened to the Christian nationals and stuffed to court with people who wanted to kill Roe. Whether he is truly drinking the Kool-Aide (personally I don't think Trump gives a shit about anything as long as he gets money and fame) or not he is now committed to a position that 70% of Americans disagree with. The fact that Dems aren't knocking it out of the fucking park (we're moving in the right direction finally, at least) is a pretty clear sign that America is sick and tired of neoliberalism and wants actual change.

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[–] simplejack 141 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You shouldn’t have to file a police report or be seriously ill to get an abortion. Fuck the GOP’s stance on abortion.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago (3 children)

That’s Trump’s stance on abortion. GOP stance is: you’re not an American if you support ANY abortion publicly.

[–] FuglyDuck 17 points 4 months ago (2 children)

probably not even his stance on abortion.

"Yeah... i support exceptions for, uh, rape, and stuff... ". the boos were because he didn't make the winking obvious enough for the troglodytes in the back.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He’s been on the record in the past fully supporting abortion; I believe it’s a service family members of his have used more than once.

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[–] Fedizen 117 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The crowd: "We love rape and incest"

[–] madcaesar 53 points 4 months ago (1 children)

How else do you expect them to procreate???!?

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[–] barsquid 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how hard a horse would have to kick my skull before I thought the government should assist pedophiles in harming their victims. They hate women so much.

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[–] toiletobserver 84 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] crank0271 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'll bet you've seen some shit

[–] toiletobserver 39 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Neck vaginas, people fuckin couches. It's a wild world

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

This is what happens when you pander to extremists, donnie. You now have the choice of pissing off the nutjobs by trying to appeal to the moderates, or you can double down on the nutjobs. You lose either way.

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[–] fubo 66 points 4 months ago (6 children)

He's probably paid for an abortion in a case of rape and incest.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

We have court records alleging almost as much. It was a kid on Epstein's Island.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

With campaign money.

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 4 months ago

Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can't complete a coherent sentence can't remember what his cult wants. He needs to drop out, he's just too old.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

On the one hand, I love to see him booed and I'm sure it actually had an impact on the narcissist. On the other hand, the booers could hardly have chosen a worse stance.

Degenerates is right. You have to be a degenerate to believe that a 10-year-old should have her uncle's rape baby.

[–] FuglyDuck 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

... I mean we're talking about the people who probably are the uncles who raped a child.

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[–] t0m5k1 56 points 4 months ago (11 children)

America, you are a seriously screwed up nation.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This is probably why he has been so hesitant on making campaign promises this time around.

If he takes up a stand other than "dems are bad", he risks dividing his fanbase.

[–] kameecoding 16 points 4 months ago

Well his issue is that he has been saying shit to appease his cult and they took a turn for straight up fascism, and then his issue is that the coup failed and he is no longer in power and that maga cult is simply not big enough to get him elected, he has to take some more reasonable stances to attract the "normal" republicans, but then those somewhat normal views are too fucking extreme for his maga cult so he is in risk of losing them if he says stuff like this, he is kinda fucked

[–] barsquid 15 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Why doesn't he just do the classics which they all agree on? Promises of overt bigotry and being financially cucked by billionaires always work great on Repubs.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just in case someone truly believe that all this s**tshow would just disappear without Trump around. Let's face it, he's a symptom of the problem, not the main cause.

[–] rsuri 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The abortion shitshow isn't about Trump, but the neo-monarchism shitshow is.

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[–] XipArchivedXenia 46 points 4 months ago (20 children)

i don't understand why people are still anti-abortion in general, but even for those who are completely against it, why not allow it in extreme cases like medical reasons, rape, and incest? surely your god wouldn't want a young girl raped by her father to give birth to her own child-sibling who's definitely going to be all kinds of genetically and mentally fucked up?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Honest answer? Yeah, many of them would. Because God doesn't make mistakes and it must therefore be God's plan.

Why is rape part of God's plan but abortion isn't? No clue, beats me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's all part of God's plan? It's either all or not all, so which is it?

Expecting critical thinking supported faith is a waste of time ;-)

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[–] sandbox 39 points 4 months ago

Because they believe that women should be subordinate to men, and that their sexuality should be tightly controlled. For the same reason, they want to make it harder to get divorced.

It has never been about religion, that’s just a smokescreen. it’s just control over women.

[–] P1nkman 30 points 4 months ago

The Lord works in mysterious ways. Or some other bullshit they tell themselves to justify the horrors of the world. The Lord is almighty. No, fuck you, the "lord" does not exist, you imbecile.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 22 points 4 months ago

"Christians" didn't give two shits about abortion until integrating schools became a thing in the South. Then, suddenly, we care about the "unborn."

Just gonna leave this here:

"The unborn are a convenient group of people to advocate for. They never make demands of you; they are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor; they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe. Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.”

  • Pastor David Barnhart
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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your ONLY allowed to kill Children AFTER they've been Born! That's why these SAME people are TOTALLY COOL with Guns in Schools and Calling in Bomb Threats to Children's Hospital's and Outlawing Youth Medicine and Defunding School Lunches!

[–] eclipse 31 points 4 months ago (5 children)
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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

He created that monster. It’s his own fault if they eat him alive- because I guarantee you, they’re going to get far worse and they’ll turn on him in a fucking second if he even so much as glances to the left.

[–] Valmond 18 points 4 months ago

Glances to the slightly less far right you mean?

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[–] barsquid 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have to commend these vile shitbags with being consistent about hating women and wanting them to be miserable incubators.

Other "moderate" regressives who find that far too cruel to impose on somebody need to get a fucking clue what team they are backing. Supporting abortion for rape and incest is inconsistent with pretending a fetus is a human. There are no crimes a father can commit where it is morally acceptable to execute a child.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 26 points 4 months ago

Floundering for a platform when the only platform they had, “fuck Biden”, was suddenly pulled out from under them. Now they don’t know what to do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

You really have to be full of hate to take such a position. Wtf.

Hey, you know what's cool? Traumatizing victims of trauma!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The Republicans are getting cannibalized by their own voterbase. They've pushed their voters too far to the right, and now it's coming back to bite them in the ass. Whatever plausibly "moderate" views red politicians have now are going to be gone in a few years, if the Democrats winning the upcoming elections doesn't save them lol

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (11 children)

Just a reminder that the only sensible way to determine if a pregnancy was caused by rape is to ask the woman.

If you're pro-rape-exception, you're pro choice.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Hypothetically, what about any prostitute you happen to get pregnant?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

Scrolling by quickly, the thumbnail in my Lemmy client makes it look like he's got a hitler mustache. The framing of the microphone and his hand is almost perfect and very fitting.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Trump: I don't want to be financially responsible for my rape babies.

Crowd: boo!

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