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An online fundraiser for former President Donald Trump has racked up $84,354 out of a $355 million target in just 24 hours following the final judgement in his civil fraud trial in New York.

On Friday, Trump was fined roughly $355 million by New York Judge Arthur Engoron following a monthslong trial. The trial was to determine how much Trump and his associates would pay after New York Attorney General Letitia James filed a lawsuit in September 2022 accusing the former president, his two adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, The Trump Organization and two firm executives, Allen Weisselberg and Jeff McConney of fraudulently overvaluing assets to secure more favorable bank loans and taxation deals.

The former president was also barred from doing business in New York for three years. Other defendants in the case also faced financial penalties and were banned from doing business in New York for periods of time. Meanwhile, Trump, who is the GOP frontrunner in the 2024 presidential election, has denied any wrongdoing and claims the case was politically motivated.

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[–] kescusay 221 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

Any Trump supporters out there, I want you to think about something.

One of the reasons you originally supported Trump is that he was supposedly rich enough to fund his own campaign. Then you sent him - supposedly a man worth $10 billion at one point - piles of money. He begged you for it over and over. He needed your help to fight the system, to "stop the steal," to "make America great again," and you gladly opened your wallets without ever wondering why a billionaire needed your money and couldn't fund his campaigns on his own.

That billionaire now has a GoFundMe. Roll that around in your head. He has a GoFundMe because he can't (or won't) spend his own earned income as a billionaire real-estate tycoon to settle judgments against him that - by his own claims - amount to roughly 1/20th his net worth.

Why? Try to explain why in a way that doesn't make you sound like the world's biggest sucker and the victim of a con artist.

[–] [email protected] 127 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Any Trump supporters out there

Literally zero of them browse here. Your message is simply echoing in here. You should post it to Truth Social or Hexbear or whatever shithole they peruse and let us know here what their replies are.

[–] painfulasterisk 66 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You know what will happen, the post will be deleted and the account will be banned.

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[–] toiletobserver 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Based on my experience... Nextdoor

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Too relatable.

I made an account to browse neighborhood news. If someone loses a cat or dog, I do want to be on the lookout. Haven't added a single friend there. I'm just there to observe and potentially help save a pet. But it's very "boomer" there, and in my experience (having lived here my whole life) every boomer is a Trump fan until proven otherwise. Every boomer goes to church every Sunday. They're all the literal stereotype, and almost half are the same person as the ones you see interviewed at rallies by liberal-leaning journalists.

[–] asterfield 15 points 10 months ago

A good argument can still be read and later used on by someone who does read here.

Or used by some future machine learning project.

All communication creates ripples

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 10 months ago

If those Trump supporters could read they would be very upset

[–] fluxion 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump the billionaire welfare queen

[–] cabron_offsets 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just like all billionaires. Except that he’s not a billionaire.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

All conning and bs aside, wealthy mantra is "why use your money, when you can use someone else's?" Even if trump actually did have $10,000,000,000 in assets....Hell; even in cash, he'd still try and get other saps to pay for shit for his benefit. The guy is a d-bag.

[–] AngryCommieKender 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Beyond that, the entire GoFundMe is against the terms and services of the EULA on GoFundMe. You aren't allowed to raise money for "alleged or actual crimes," since this is a legal judgement, it's not just an alleged crime. It fits the definition of an actual crime.

The golden Trump shoes are actually legal money laundering.

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[–] FlyingSquid 85 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If my math is correct, at that rate, he only has a little less than 11 years to go to raise the target amount!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Nah, I read in another thread that interest on it was beyond that, but at about 5%, that's nearly 50k/day.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Compound interest is complicated but I figure at least 30 years if $84k per day holds up. Of course Don only has a few years left so why would the donations keep coming?

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[–] Atom 74 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The GoFundMe is run by a random follower of his. Remember that guy who was raising money to pay for the wall and then just took the money and disappeared?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I wish I would have thought of it first this time 😔

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That was Steve Bannon, and he received a presidential pardon for it.

[–] Evilcoleslaw 12 points 10 months ago

It was Steve Bannon and Brian Kolfage. Bannon was pardoned but Kolfage is sitting in FMC Rochester until 2027.

But this GoFundMe is by the wife of "financial influencer" Grant Cardone, who has been sued by investors for fraud multiple times. Also a Scientologist, so that tracks.

[–] Khanzarate 56 points 10 months ago

84K that isn't going to go into a superPAC, to another candidate, to the RNC, or get spent to campaign for trump.

[–] CharlesDarwin 54 points 10 months ago

Imagine being so stupid and depraved as to give money to help bail out a supposed billionaire (and rapist).

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago

Oh man, they raised 0.024% of the judgement in 24 hours! ((84,000/350,000,000)*100 to yield percent)

If they manage to do that once a day every year, it'll only take them (350,000,000/84,000/365) 11 years to pay if off!

[–] Furedadmins 38 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wish I was unethical enough to grift the shit out of those rubes.

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[–] Buffalox 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh before he needed $355 million, now he only needs $355 million. That $84K is an unnoticeable drop in the bucket. 😂 😂 😂

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I thought Trump was worth billions. That's what he likes to tell everyone. $355 million should just be pocket change for him, right?

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[–] SomeGuy69 28 points 10 months ago (3 children)

See, Russian money is currently tight because of the war. Bad timing orange old man.

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[–] profdc9 27 points 10 months ago

Perhaps the MAGA base is finally running out of money for their champion to piss away. Though if they had any more, I'm sure Trump would be willing to spend to his very last supporter.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Man, i want some of that sweet rube money.

If hypothetically, i created a gofundme that said something along the lines of 'help support me support trump' and it had a bunch of weasel words that sounded supportive of him but just boiled down to me using the money to pay my bills while thinking about supportive scaffolding, would that be illegal?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Plenty of dudes have already beaten you to the punch. They blast people with texts that all go to fake donor sites like winred.com that then beg you to make $3,300 donations.

Hell, winred.com is just as much the same scam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIOrTvPdFwQ

Winred still operates.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't mean you can't make more.

With $15 (for domain and hosting), you too can funnel money from MAGA with a donation site to "help"!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Reminds me of when the PS3 first went on sale and people sold pictures of a PS3 on eBay. The title said it was a picture, the content said it was a picture, but people were impatient, didn't read and bought the auctions. I thought that was a bit manipulative then, but I would not feel bad if people did this to Trump supporters. IANAL but I don't think it's illegal as long as you don't say you'll do something and then not do it.

[–] june 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

At this rate it’ll only take about 11 1/2 years to raise the full 355m.

[–] Lon3star 19 points 10 months ago

The rate of interest is close to $1M per week... So 84k/day won't even cover the interest he owes

[–] btaf45 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you count the $4 million that each of his sons owe and the interest already accrued they actually owe $464 million. It was a very bad day for the Trump crime family.

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[–] reddig33 23 points 10 months ago

“Fools and their money are soon parted.”

[–] supercriticalcheese 22 points 10 months ago

Still 84K too much

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

I can't wait until he launches his competitor to Star Citizen.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

So if you divide it out, that’s 0.0023% of the fine.

Today’s goal is $600,000,000, we just need to sell enough magazine subscriptions and all of our food stamps. This is totally achievable! Now let’s get out there and support the TRUE 51TH PRESIDENT!

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[–] Daft_ish 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

When you're funding your successful billionaire businessman president to pay his court fees on the same platform used to pay for people's medical bills do you ever think maybe capitalism might have failed us?

[–] BonesOfTheMoon 15 points 10 months ago

Holy fuck the alleged billionaire needs a Go fund me. Pull your finger out of your ass bud, you're spare parts.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The goal, ha!

$45/avg grift (least this time the fund’s purpose isn’t buried in the fine print)

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I hope someone is carefully monitoring these donations to determine origin....

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