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What companies will you never give another dollar to?

What happened that put them on your blacklist?

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (9 children)

My top company that I will never give another dollar to is Adobe, as they forced me into a 1 year "contract" with a $200 cancellation fee after forgetting to cancel their one month discounted trial in time.

Other companies for myself include Dell, HP, and Canadian Tire.

[–] surewhynotlem 60 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Obligatory "fuck Adobe". My proudest moment last year was cutting our company's Acrobat licenses by 70% and taking about a million bucks out of their greedy little pockets.

Nitro Pro is great anyway. It does the job.

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[–] TootSweet 73 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Here's one nobody has mentioned yet. Hasbro. Owner of Wizards of the Coast which recently tried to massively fuck over D&D players and sent hired mercinaries (literally Pinkertons) after one of their Magic: The Gathering players for something that totally wasn't the player's fault.

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[–] jasep 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Mine is Sony. First the rootkit scandal, then the removal of Other OS from PS3s after featuring it as a selling point in the marketing. Totally deceptive and I won't give them my money.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I got a whole $7 from that Other OS lawsuit.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Reddit because of the API pricing change change

Unity because of the charge per game install thing

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Reddit because of the API pricing change

Yeah that did it for me as well. I was a huge fan of Apollo until the developer decided to shut it down because of that.

Luckily Lemmy fills the gap pretty well, and the Voyager app is almost as good as Apollo used to be.

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[–] qevlarr 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Blizzard

Back when they implemented Real ID and forced people to provide real namr and identification for playing the games they paid for, these motherfuckers locked me out of my account for account sharing because someone logged in from another country. That was me, logging in for my lunch break at work, about 1 hour away from home. They demanded I not only gave them my real name, but even send a copy of my passport to them by email. Obviously I refused. I had the original box and the game code, but they didn't care. There were no other fraud indicators. Just me logging in from work and using a pseudonym. I never got any of my games back. Fuck them

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago

Nestle and it's many derivatives. Water stealing, baby starving, child slavers.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Nestlé is the big one for me. Their stance on water is...evil.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

HP. This one is easy. Low hanging fruit. For me, I bought an expensive gaming laptop that arrived defective. I asked for a replacement, they denied and required I send it in for repairs. Waited a month for them to tell me there isn’t a problem. Asked for a refund instead of having it shipped back. They said that’s not how it works, they have to send it back first. So I get it, with the defect still, and call to get a refund. They initially deny a refund due to being outside the refund period and offer a “buy back” credit. I had to spend an hour explaining why that’s not happening and why they’re going to give me a refund or expect to see me in court. Keep in mind, I hadn’t used this laptop more than an hour or two and it’s been shipped around and forth for two months. I did get my refund at least, but the headache was insane and I refuse to even look at HP products.

Adobe: Already said by others. For me, it’s because they charge an insane amount of money for barely-functional software. I used Affinity products instead.

Google: They cancel their services so quickly, it’s more like they’ve blacklisted ME. I refuse to pay for anything they offer in the event it will be discontinued in a year or two. RIP Play Music.

Amazon: Prices increase, service quality decreases, value decreases exponentially. The product I paid for at $79/year was far more superior to whatever Prime costs today. Mostly third party cheap trash. Unfortunately, and most likely by design, there are just a few specific reasons I’m forced to give Amazon money every so often. But at the very least, I’m making the highest conscious effort to avoid them.

I’ll update this if I come up with more.

Edit 1: Netflix: They keep removing quality content and increasing prices. Anti-consumer shit. They are both the reason I stopped pirating and considered starting again.

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[–] weeeeum 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Apple. They make some decent stuff but it has repeatedly become more expensive to own and maintain because repair is nearly impossible. And because of the monopoly they are building it is guaranteed to get much worse.

Additionally everything they do has a ripple effect across the industry. The average flagship phone is now over $1000. The average phone doesn't have a headphone jack or micro SD expansion, or replaceable battery, and are all impossible to repair. Computers impossible to upgrade. Extra ram and SSD capacity being prohibitively expensive (8gb of ddr5 is 40$, apple charges 200$, similar scheme with their proprietary SSD's)

It's apparent that with Apple's continued success the rest of all of our electronics have continued to get worse and predatory to squeeze more money out of us.

We reap what we sow and if we sow a company that is hellbent on enshittifiying all of our everyday devices and gouge us for our money, we aren't going to have any other companies left (or at least those that won't participate in this practice)

I work in computer repair and I have witnessed first hand how hostile aAple is to the consumer. Serialized components that are impossible to replace, to perforated cables that tear more easily during disassembly. It is dumbfounding that a company with such little respect for their customers is so successful.

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[–] spittingimage 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nestle. They're our closest living example of an evil corporation run by a cartoon supervillain.

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[–] FlashZordon 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Local coffee shop.

My wife designed some ads and logos for them then they stuffed her when she asked for payment.

[–] NOT_RICK 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My wife is a creative. It’s insane how many people are totally comfortable with stiffing designers

[–] shalafi 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's not "real" work. You gotta get paid up front and put a limit on changes. You're either good, or you're not. Let the market sort it out, but don't work for free.

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[–] doubletwist 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Wells Fargo.

The short version is, they forced me to close my savings/checking account due to $32 in insufficient funds that was reported to Chex Systems by my former bank, and told me that I could reopen them once the report was cleared.

I got the report cleared with proof that it was due to a third party (AOL - who admitted it and got the report removed) that made unauthorized charges to an account I had closed.

When I went back to get my accounts reopened, the manager spoke me like I was the scum of the earth for ever having been reported, even though it wasn't my fault and I had proof. She told me that I couldn't open an account at Wells Fargo for 7 years, and said I could come back after that and open accounts.

As if I would ever go near Wells Fargo again after treating me like that over a $32 report that I had proven wasn't my fault.

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[–] fleabomber 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] niktemadur 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The ones that I come across nearly every day in one way or another:

Twitter - manipulation, right wing bullshit
Facebook - privacy, manipulation
Reddit - manipulation, right wing bullshit
Walmart - exploitation, right wing bullshit
Nestle - exploitation
Chick Fil A - right wing/religious bullshit
Papa Johns - right wing bullshit
McDonalds - exploitation

[–] RBWells 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I've never been to Cracker Barrel because when I was younger they fired all their gay employees, were taken to court over it, fought and won.

Chick fil a same sort of reason, stupid discrimination.

Have never been to Applebee's because I don't have to and why would I?

Bank of America because they once stacked withdrawals over deposits, said I was overdrawn by 0.60 for some immeasurably short period of time, and slapped a $35 overdraft fee on my account. I called, bitched until I got my $35 back, and closed the account. Hate them with a burning passion. Have had to deal with them at two jobs since and they seem still as bad.

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[–] phoneymouse 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Reddit, X, Tesla, Sweet Green, Chick-fil-A, etc.

Google/Facebook: spyware

Microsoft: Windows is spyware and I’m just done with Windows. There are many better options for software.

Reddit: CEO is a prick. Gone the way of Facebook

X/Tesla: CEO is a prick, racist and anti-semite

Sweet Green: CEO blacklisting students for protesting war

Chick-fil-A: Run by far right bigots

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

far right bigots

Add In-N-Out and Hobby Lobby to that.

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[–] jacktherippah 23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I loathe Samsung. Their bootloader unlocking is bullshit. Never getting another dollar from me ever again.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Google, should be self explanatory, but for me specifically for pretty much making YouTube worse with every change they make since that's the only service of them I still use. And I'm not going to also pay them to sell my data.

Epic Games, for continuously fucking over Linux players and Unreal fans (and well players in general but specifically those two groups).

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[–] justlookingfordragon 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most recent one: EA. I had disliked them and their practices for quite some time now, but there was a game on sale that I found interesting enough to purchase .. it was like 2 Euro or whatever, so no big loss. AFTER the download they wanted me to sign an electronic agreement to basically harvest all of my data and requiring me to be permanently online in a singleplayer offline game at all times so they could monitor me, and if I didn't agree I wouldn't be able to play the game. No refund. I uninstalled it and will never purchase anything from them again - that was the last straw, the last ever chance I was willing to give them. And no there was no warning of any kind before the purchase - they deliberately waited until after they had my money to "ask" for that bullshit.

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[–] Pyroglyph 20 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lenovo.

Years ago they ran a competition along with their "GoodWeird" campaign. I got high enough on the leaderboard of their little web game to win a (substantial) prize yet they refused to ever respond to me.

I don't care if ThinkPads are good, fuck them. Especially fuck their marketing team.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

Amazon - human rights violations in their warehouse

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
  • Activision-Blizzard
  • Adobe
  • Capcom
  • Digital Extremes
  • Electronic Arts
  • Nintendo
  • Sony
  • Ubisoft
  • Warner Bros.
  • + too many more to list

Anti-consumer practices. The gaming and software industries are full of it.

  • Unity Technologies

Have shown that they have no problem screwing over their business partners. Even though they walked it back, they cannot be trusted to not try it again. You would have to be a fool to start a project in Unity now.

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[–] Sterile_Technique 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Goya. It's easy to forget amidst the tsunami of far more severe bullshit between 2016 and 2020, but when Trump abused his authority to hawk a fucking bean advertisement in the oval office instead of leading the country during a pandemic... yeah, decided I'd never buy a Goya product again, ever.

[–] DigitalFrank 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Walmart.

At even faintly busy times, they have lines waiting to self checkout, because half the self checkouts are closed. And of course, they have only one regular register open with 8 people with full carts in that line.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

EA, Nestle, Amazon.

Surely I don't need to explain why.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Chick-fil-A. Direct support to anti-LGBT+ groups. Then after they said they would stop, they were found to still be doing it. But don't worry, they said they'd stop for real this time.

Payless Shoes. Awful experience checking out once. No reason to ever go back. They're closed now, so nothing to worry about there.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comcast (Xfinity) We couldn’t get a good signal in our house and were told the cable was old and needed to be upgraded. They wouldn’t cover the upgrade. A local fiber optic company came through and we dumped them.

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[–] zxqwas 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Apple. Vendor lock-in and anti-competitive practice. I'd boycott Google too but at the time of writing I can't dump the mail for example.

Tesla, until they sign an agreement with the Unions in Sweden. I'm voting right, I'm not a member of an union, but if you want to do business here you follow our culture and norms.

Probably half a dozen more I can't think of now.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • EA – killed Earth and Beyond just so they could use the servers for Sims Online
  • Blizzard – trust thermocline for me was Blitzcheung and the “We’re sorry you’re upset” excuse for an apology
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Anything poisoned by the hand of Elon Musk. I loved Twitter ten years ago... now it's a toy for a vain, self-consumed fool, a stupid child allowed to play with power tools. I deleted my accounts months ago and studiously avoid visiting the site, or any links leading to that site. It fills my mouth with bile just thinking about what it's become.

[–] punkwalrus 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bank of America. I have dealt with them on a corporate level, multimillion dollar assets, mind you, and seen gross incompetence and negligence that scared me. I'm talking about constant insecure data practices, inconsistent rules, terrible record keeping, and asset mismanagement.

The biggest weakness appeared to be how they treated their employees. Our "local branch" went through multiple managers in less than a year, and when we did business with the "employees du jour" in our quarterly meetings, they all acted like scared college students. Unprepared, inexperienced, and some cocksure with blatantly wrong information. And some downright unprofessional. For example, we had a meeting where they kept pronouncing our company name wrong, spelled our name wrong a different way, and kept adding parts to it. Like:

"Okay, as president of Reginald Incorporated--"

"Remington. Like the gun."

"Regingun international - -

"No no. REM MING TON. Remington."

"Right. Remington International - -

"Incorporated. There is no 'international' in our name."

"But you're a Japanese company?"

"No. We're American. We do business with the Japanese."

"Oh. Huh. Okay, as president of Remington Incorporated of Japan - -"

"NO. Just 'Remington Incorporated.' That's it."

"Oh wow. Sorry. I'm going to have to fix that on this paperwork, then."

"Yes. That's why we're here."

[–] hperrin 16 points 1 year ago

I just try to avoid giving money to any of the tech/media giants. Doesn’t mean I’ll never buy anything from them, but I’ll actively seek to find alternatives to their products.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apple, because their phones are shit, and they made their phones with child labour. Red bull because they haven't withdrawn their products and business from Russia like McDonald's did. Volkswagen, because they fucking lied on all of their vehicles with the emissions test. Blizzard, because they rape and sexually abused all of their female workers. Shell gas station from an oil spill they refuse to clean up. Riot Games due to them not completing my refund. KFC because I got sick from their food twice. Sam's club, because they thought my membership was expired even though it was not, and I clearly payed their stupid membership fees the day of, to shop in their warehouse they wouldn't let me shop, so I issued a charge back from my credit card company and never went back. Prism kites, more specifically the synapse models, fuckin main left cord just snaps in the middle without me being in a full headwind. Shite product, and company. Ford, because their engine mount placements for the escort were terrible, and I shouldn't have to remove part of the subframe to get it off, just terrible engineering. Now I drive a Toyota, and I'm happy

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Meta
Chick-fil-a
Hobby Lobby
AT&T
Eden Foods
Twitter
Tesla
Apple
Johnson & Johnson
Any company that includes a bible verse on it's product.
NRA
Salvation Army

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Easyjet. They sent us an update in their app saying they delayed our flight a few hours due to ill pilot. We were waiting near the gate (nearest cafe) but not quite within view, and no flight boards nearby. They decided not to delay after all but did not send an update to the app, and nothing over loudspeakers. My paranoia got the better of me so i wandered down to the gate around the original time of flight to take a look. When I saw they were boarding after all i called the family down, but we had missed it by a minute or so. They would not let us board. They preferred to delay the flight while they unloaded our baggage. We had to pay for and book with another airline to arrive at our hotel at midnight losing a day of our Greek Island holiday. When we complained to their service desk, they refused to refund us, and said "we DO suggest you always keep up to date by watching the flight boards". There was a giant sign by their desk that literally said "download our app to keep up to date on your flights". I will never give those fucks another dollar, and I tell this story to anyone who will listen.

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[–] TallonMetroid 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)
  • Chipotle, for union busting
  • Walgreens, for attempted corporate inversion
  • Chik-fil-a, for general Christofascist asshattery
  • Hobby Lobby, for general Christofascist asshattery
  • Walmart, for general corporate asshattery

I've also been trying to find an Amazon Smile alternative after Amazon killed it earlier this year, but haven't had any success yet.

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