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Summary

Donald Trump announced plans to reform U.S. elections, including mandating paper ballots, same-day voting, voter ID, and proof of citizenship, while eliminating mail-in voting.

Trump criticized California’s ban on requiring voter ID, calling for a nationwide overhaul. Though mail-in and early voting surged during the pandemic, Trump has long opposed these methods, claiming fraud, despite evidence showing fraud rates are extremely low.

Critics argue his proposals could disproportionately affect rural, disabled, and nonwhite voters, potentially disenfranchising key Democratic-leaning groups.

The reforms would mark significant shifts in U.S. election policies.

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[–] T00l_shed 170 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is why he wants to do that.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks for putting that plain text from the top of the post into a jpeg down in the comments.

[–] T00l_shed 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I couldn't copy the plain text on jerboa, so I had to screen shot.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

On Jerboa: Tap the three vertical dots menu in the original post, Copy > Copy post text.

[–] T00l_shed 14 points 1 week ago
[–] WhatAmLemmy 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When he declared Nov would be the last election, and winning it meant they wouldn't have to worry about elections again, he meant it!

He's doing exactly what he said he would do.

[–] T00l_shed 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yup. When a fascist tells you they are a fascist, believe them.

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[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is it folks. If he is able to transform our election system with his own two hands, we've had our last fair election, I guarantee it. Fraud will be baked in, circumventing any design elements that are ostensibly there to guard against it.

This is the scariest thing I've read since the election.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm expecting a third term now with 110% of the vote. NK style.

[–] WhatYouNeed 13 points 1 week ago

Like that scene at the end of The Dictator, when he finally holds election.

There are two vote boxes and all the citizens are queuing in front of the box that will vote for his opposition. A tank drives up next to that queue, and everyone leaves the opposition queue, rushing over to join the queue to vote for the dictator.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nah, we are about to have elections like the US used to in the 1900s, filled with political shenanigans. Its bad, but like... that has been how elections have always been run.

Not exactly russia or north korea, but like half way there.

Edit: Basically, instead of 51% of the vote, you need 55% or maybe even more, because some of the votes will get thrown out for made up reasons. Slightly marked off center of the bubble, invalid. Didn't fill the bubble completely, invalid. And they only scrutinize votes for the opposition, and approve the votes for their candidates even if there are the same errors in the marking of the ballot.

[–] chakan2 38 points 1 week ago

They weren't quiet about this being the last fair election we would have. I'm also not convinced it was actually a fair election.

But whatever...too late to bitch about the fascists now.

[–] 4grams 15 points 1 week ago

The writing has not even been on the wall here, it’s been part of the plan all along, he’s been saying it all along and it’s obvious after he tried to violently steal it last time.

We’re in a situation where our only hope I they are too incompetent to pull off the democracy destroying evil they are promising.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Goodbye democracy. We barely knew thee ...

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice 28 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah, clearly opening the door to discuss further changes to the election process. It's dying, and he doesn't want more people voting, he wants less, if at all

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 week ago

Real "stop testing" energy here.

If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any

"If we just stop voting, we'd have very few votes against me"

[–] crimsoncobalt 74 points 1 week ago (5 children)

But.. it's the states that run elections, not the federal government. This doesn't make any sense.

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m 70 points 1 week ago

Don’t worry, I’m sure all the small government conservatives will stop this!

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

scotus would have to literally rewrite the constitution for the feds to have that much control over states' elections.

owait.

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[–] splonglo 64 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And you'll have to wait 10 hours to vote on a workday because they've limited voting locations to one every million people - like they already do in Georgia.

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[–] jordanlund 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"mandating paper ballots... while eliminating mail-in voting."

Does he not know mail in ballots are paper ballots? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The point is to eliminate voting options, the "justifications" are made up. Anything that moves closer to "not being able to vote" is the goal.

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[–] nifty 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"We're gonna do things that have been really needed for a long time," he said. "And we are gonna look at elections. We want to have paper ballots, one day voting, voter ID, and proof of citizenship."

This should come with a national day off for voting, and mandatory voting requirement.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago

Party that loves the troops want to eliminate way the troops vote.

[–] Aolley 45 points 1 week ago (4 children)

fuck that, mail in voting has done so much good and it's a prime step in stopping all this. if we had national mail in voting things would get better fast so no wonder they don't want it.

what would this mean for states that already do this

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

I think we all know what the party of small government and states rights thinks of states doing things they don’t agree with.

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[–] gnomesaiyan 40 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This motherfucker better be in a Popemobile 24/7. I got a bad feeling about this guy's future existence.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Something something constitution

Article I, Section 4, Clause 1:

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S4-C1-2/ALDE_00013577/

What was that about States rights?

Oh, yeah, they only matter when they do what you want.

[–] bluemellophone 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Oregon has entirely mail-in voting, since the 1990s. Good luck getting us to give it up.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago

Still following putin I see. Wait until he tries to change Presidential term limits.

[–] simplejack 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Wouldn’t he basically need a constitutional amendment to do this. Which would be almost impossible these days.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hard to say. voting is up to states for methodology but like we did have restrictions on state due to discrimation till recently that would not allow them to change their rules or purge voters like they do again nowadays.

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[–] Etterra 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Too bad for him the constitution clearly states "the states shall decide" - which is why we have the hodgepodge patchwork bullshit we have now. So he may want to change it, but unless he actually does light the Constitution on fire, this is unlikely to go anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

omm... the Republicans have the supreme court and are in the process of lighting the constitution on fire as we speak?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

cuts out 80% of the elderly vote in one swift motion

cuts out unprepared idiots who don't know any better before they leave their house

There goes his voters.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If he really wants to standardize voting at the national level, I think this might actually backfire on the GOP in the long run. Mail-in voting and early voting is extremely popular across the political spectrum, while lazy ignorant old people, the life blood of the GOP for over fifty years, often don't carry ID or even know where theirs is.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shutting down polling stations in democratic areas has been part of the disenfranchisement strategy to-date. I’m sure this policy is one step of a few to try and permanently take power…

[–] AngryRobot 13 points 1 week ago

'"f I win, you'll never have to vote again!"

-shitler

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[–] mkhopper 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But... I thought he said we wouldn't have to vote ever again?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago

Anyone else get those Republican mailers that said to be sure to get your mail-in ballot early? (I mean, like, a bunch of them.)

[–] eran_morad 20 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] CharlesDarwin 20 points 1 week ago

Jesus fuck. If this asshole gets rid of mail-in voting in Colorado...our voting system here is FANTASTIC.

The qons ruin every thing. They plan on making everyone miserable and breaking everything.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

I am forced to file taxes every year and being a US citizen fucks my ability to invest in the retirement plans here because they all end up being PFICs which the IRS heavily penalizes. Fuck you, you're not taking my rights away. Forcing me to travel to not only the US, but to the state where I'm registered is not OK as that is thousands of dollars and days to accomplish.

[–] peopleproblems 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Maybe it's just me, but it feels like a bad idea to do something that disenfranchises people at the moment.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Eliminate the Electoral College. None of this other crap.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

In elections where there needs to be a single winner so proportional representation does not work, how about this (already works in several EU countries):

Round 1: Anyone can participate if they have enough signatures. If anyone gets the majority vote, they automatically win and there is no round 2.

Round 2, 1 or 2 weeks later: Top 2 candidates from Round 1. No votes are carried over. Popular vote wins.

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[–] Furbag 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lmao good luck with that constitutional amendment, Donnie.

This half-baked nonsense is dead at conception because once again Republicans prove they don't understand government.

[–] NikkiDimes 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a shame that, despite not understanding government, they're about to have unfettered control of it.

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