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[–] rustyfish 122 points 1 month ago (12 children)
[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago

This destroys the butthole.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Ooh, bonus shrapnel!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

count to ten

[–] HessiaNerd 18 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Thanks chief

[–] Psythik 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What in the Call of Duty is this shit?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

They're from Halo

[–] idunnololz 9 points 1 month ago

Barbed for my pleasure uwu

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[–] glitchdx 94 points 1 month ago (19 children)

baseball.

The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.

[–] setsneedtofeed 34 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).

Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That's a reason for then not now.

Better question is then why didn't Germany stick with the old design instead of switching to more "modern" looking grenades?

And the answer is NOT "baseball". The answer is that they're too heavy and cumbersome. And the cons outweighs the pros.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The answer is it simplified NATO logistics

Pray we don't simplify it further

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[–] SkunkWorkz 12 points 1 month ago

Is this why soldiers in the rest of the world kick their grenades like a soccer ball?

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[–] yesman 82 points 1 month ago (8 children)

The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.

I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago

Also they're way bigger, taking more space in storage and when in transport

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

We have grenade launchers now.

Someone needs to make one that fires the stick grenades. At 3500 RPM.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Once again NCD reinvents the bolter

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[–] Archer 11 points 1 month ago

Wake up babe new A-10 ammo just dropped

[–] setsneedtofeed 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations

A minor addendum, the M24 and M43 stick grenades both had fragmentation sleeves produced for them. These could be quickly fitted over the grenades to change them from offensive to defensive grenades. Similar to the RGD-33 stick grenades used by the Soviets.

I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.

The difference between offensive and defensive grenades is defined by how much fragmentation they produce. Without a fragmentation sleeve, a German stick grenade produces blast and concussion but very minimal fragmentation, making it's practical danger area smaller. This is good for an offensive grenade where the person throwing it likely has less cover than the person receiving it. A defensive grenade produces fragmentation, and is desired when the person throwing it has cover to hide behind safely.

The non-stick grenade commonly used by the Germans in WW2, was the Model 39 ("egg grenade"), and it actually came in both offensive and defensive flavors. So really, either a stick or egg grenade could be used for either role.

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[–] Tyfud 61 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can carry 8 modern hand grenades, or 2 of those things.

[–] IndiBrony 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.

[–] hydrospanner 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

An atlatl for grenades!

A splatlatl, if you will.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ooh good idea. While were at it, why not train some Jai Alai players to be grenadiers.

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[–] setsneedtofeed 46 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wisest wizard gets weird in the marines

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (4 children)

3/4 of volume is taken by wood, what are you, russian logistics officer?

also no way to attach spoon-type igniter, this thing is properly ancient design

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

want longer range? hear me out:

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’ve seen the videos of boot instructors being rightfully paranoid that the boots are gonna drop the live grenades during training, I feel like adding these into the mix would straight up give them heart attacks.

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[–] Etterra 12 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can give you pleasure

Idk, the round ones do just fine for me, just a bit different form of pleasure.

[–] BrokenGlepnir 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Pineapples are ribbed for pleasure

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

If you shit out a ring, you'd best hope you haven't been skipping your kegels.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How about just clubbing someone with a live explosive?

[–] trashgirlfriend 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This only works if you are black and Scottish

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

>can give you pleasure

Are we saying blowing stuff up is fun, or telling you to go fuck yourself with a grenade?

[–] toynbee 24 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Too many people tried using them as hammers.

[–] setsneedtofeed 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

TNT filler is very stable. It's fine. I mean, the grenades would not be great as hammers, but they won't explode at a touch.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Why not regular pineapples and a lacrosse stick or an ahtlatl?

[–] Anticorp 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or you know, an M203 Grenade Launcher.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bcs electricians kept using them as hammers.

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