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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 223 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The last one didn't work, so that makes sense

Good god, why is he a free man

[–] Plopp 124 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why is he allowed to run for president?

[–] [email protected] 144 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because this country has a festering fascism problem

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Perpetuated by an education problem

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Caused by the fascist problem

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[–] grabyourmotherskeys 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

I'm pretty sure I learned more about the US government growing up in Canada than a lot of US citizens. We had Schoolhouse Rock on tv with our Saturday morning cartoons (I'm old) and studied the US federal government structure for a few weeks in middle school.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because Russian money has infiltrated The Supremacy Court

[–] Passerby6497 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Also the Senate. McTurtleFucker tanked both impeachments and then said that it was up to the legal system to hold him to account.

They knew what they were doing, and the whole fucking party is complicit.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

blatant corruption that no one's doing anything about

[–] DaddleDew 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Bin Laden didn't have shit on how much this guy is a threat to American democracy.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

bin laden was an accelerationist and made it much easier for this orange sack of sh*t to, decades later, cleave the insane from a divided and distracted america.

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[–] eran_morad 33 points 3 months ago

Corruption, due to the traitor John Roberts and his decision in Citizens United.

[–] APassenger 31 points 3 months ago

Merrick Garland.

[–] Diplomjodler3 17 points 3 months ago

Because they have managed to subvert the US legal system. Not that the other side made it particularly hard for them.

[–] jumjummy 10 points 3 months ago

Hopefully this time with a competent President in the White House, a proper response will take place to any traitors. Maybe some more of these whackos can become martyrs for agent orange.

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[–] blazera 94 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Theres one last job Biden needs to get right. A big part of how Trumps last coup attempt got so far was because security was very light that day and the response slow, as trump was still in charge of all of it.

This time Biden will be in charge. Maybe this time he'll take the threat trump poses seriously.

[–] kmartburrito 38 points 3 months ago

Agreed, I hope everyone will be diligently watching. It's hard to believe how close we have come (and how close we still are) to have our democracy be in such danger and so many people to not care or actively support it being harmed.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 87 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated.

There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants.

Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote.

While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal.

[–] Dkarma 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Then Biden declares martial law and files a lawsuit forcing them to certify the results.

[–] mojofrododojo 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

imho, considering the extremely wide range of immunity the supreme court has already given to the executive, Biden would only have to declare the results certified himself - he wouldn't even need to declare martial law, much less file a lawsuit.

it's fucking deranged, but that's where we're at.

[–] Buddahriffic 13 points 3 months ago

The immunity thing doesn't give the president full power over everything. It just means the president can't be held accountable for crimes they commit for "official reasons".

Biden can't just dictate whatever he wants. The avenue for dictator power is via using that immunity to remove political opponents or incite mobs to do it for him.

Which Trump will do, if he gets in it will go from 0-100 during that first week, he probably already has a list of people that need to be removed and will use the reaction to that list to make the next list, with the goal of removing as much institutional support as he can for the insurrection that will follow once the masses realize just how serious things are.

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[–] DevCat 72 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The previous crop of insurrectionist losers got treated with kid gloves, so there would be no claim of political retribution. Kamala gets elected, the new ones will face a black woman prosecutor. Do you really want to be on the receiving end of that?

[–] citrusface 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They'll just paint her as racist against white people - there's always some bullshit spun they can parrot to their drones. But fuck em - they are weak and scared. I've not been this hopeful for the future of America in a hot minute - so I cannot wait to get out there and vote for Madam President Harris.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean, actual racism being called out for generations has been habitually and systemically ignored. In the same way, demonstrably false charges can also be ignored.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 3 months ago (20 children)

This man is a terrorist attacking America and so are his voters. They should be treated as such and put in jail.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (2 children)

didn't he start shouting "they cheated!!!" months or years before the 2020 election too?

[–] EmpathicVagrant 40 points 3 months ago

The moment his polling was behind, just like this.

[–] UristMcHolland 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was screaming it was rigged after he won in 2016

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago
[–] BurritoEater 42 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This theory has been floating around for months, but doesn't seem to be getting much coverage https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-new-over-the-top-secret-plan-518?sort=new

[–] Omega_Man 53 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well that's terrifying. The only peaceful way to stop this according to the author:

The best way to prevent this from happening is to widely publicize their scheme so public opinion will become so intense that they fear the consequences.

[–] AutistoMephisto 15 points 3 months ago

Shame that that is literally the best and likely the only recourse we have. Seems like these are huge gaping loopholes we should have closed decades ago.

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[–] Feathercrown 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

We own the white house this time. If they try this shit again the insurrection should be put down.

[–] Omega_Man 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

But they control the house... You know the body that counts the electoral votes.

[–] cmbabul 11 points 3 months ago

True but Biden is still president and commander in chief until the 20th, I’m sure they plan to spin anything he might do as a coup but it’s a bit different than last time. Still scary shit though

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they try it this time, there will be deaths, and Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies won't walk away from it. There will be more military there than people and that shit will get shut down instantly.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

But I thought the convicted felon was so popular? Why wouldn't he just, uh, win an election?

Also - why not just arrest him right now?

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe 31 points 3 months ago

ARREST HIM.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He's literally prepping for a dictatorship, he has all but admitted it.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

all but admitted

He has stated openly that he would be a dictator, on Dec 7 2023 in a Fox News interview with Sean Hannity.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Cool. Biden is currently President. So there won't be any delays in calling in the National Guard.

How many Ashli Babbitts will it take to put this fascist uprising down?

[–] peopleproblems 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That's the part I don't understand.

He's not in office, so he can't delay any response.

Hell, if I were Biden, I'd have a plan ready with my cabinet (sec def, sec state, sec home sec), my joint Chiefs of staff, secret service, etc. Also have the governor of Maryland have his Nat Guard ready too.

Biden himself is safe at the White House. But I would imagine they will be more concerned securing the Capitol building.

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[–] Sam_Bass 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Keep it up orangefuck. Only so many threats before you get taken up on tbem

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[–] carl_dungeon 18 points 3 months ago

Yeah he should go all the way. Also, only the most badass alpha maga supporters wear their name, phone number and SSN printed on their shirts in large letters while they do it, completed with some thin blue line flags, a punisher skull, and a no regrats tattoo

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