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[–] [email protected] 144 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Because this country has a festering fascism problem

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Perpetuated by an education problem

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Caused by the fascist problem

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Right....

I'm simply pointing out that facism is not at all a common endpoint one arrives at through accurate/natural/honest education. Unless you're born into the top echelons of wealth, hardly any political actions in current platforms are of true benefit to you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m simply pointing out that facism is not at all a common endpoint

i mean, i feel like you could argue it's a common outcome for people that don't respect the system (i.e. trump)

Education may have a part in it, but people believed uri geller could break spoons...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Trump respected the system and thats why his "smol loan" got him places. That is the system. It was created by and for the very fuckery that he is known for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i'm talking in a more directed political context, those who do not respect the decorum of the political institution are doomed to succumb to the fate of fascism inevitably.

The entire purpose of the decorum is for the system to function properly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Decorum that asks for people to "respect" and follow is a built-in loophole.

Hard, robust, and readily reassessed punitive rules are the only solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

yeah you can argue that, until a tank rolls up to the capitol, and that starts to become a seriously effective bargaining deal right there.

There is literally nothing more potent than using force. Decorum is what prevents everything from being some form of fascism at the end of the day. It needs to be upheld, either through law, or social behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thats literally what I said,except im not calling it decorum as thats a nonobligatory word for what should be forcibly compelled by law for all. And that law should be easily reaxamined and reformed so as to remain robust with time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

fair enough, but unfortunately, it does seem to be mostly just decorum, rather than law, considering that the immunity law passed, somehow.

It's important to remember that if someone doesn't respect the system, there is very little between them and changing it, regardless of what the system is setup to do.

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I'm pretty sure I learned more about the US government growing up in Canada than a lot of US citizens. We had Schoolhouse Rock on tv with our Saturday morning cartoons (I'm old) and studied the US federal government structure for a few weeks in middle school.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The "intended" functions and responsibilities are still taught as far as I'm aware. The more accurate and honest current functions behind not only our own government, but others, is entirely missed at a highschool and below level, and is dependent on college professors personal political values for accuracy and honesty in relevant courses.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I would say most colleges don't require gov/civics courses either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

my HS had a rather comprehensive and detailed government course, as per state curriculum. So it depends on where you go i guess.

[–] Dkarma 7 points 3 months ago

Always has been.

Nazis modeled their final solution after various aspects of slavery. Disney, Ford, trump ,and many other prominent Americans supported fascism and Hitler.