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[–] GoofSchmoofer 87 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated.

There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants.

Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote.

While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal.

[–] Dkarma 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Then Biden declares martial law and files a lawsuit forcing them to certify the results.

[–] mojofrododojo 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

imho, considering the extremely wide range of immunity the supreme court has already given to the executive, Biden would only have to declare the results certified himself - he wouldn't even need to declare martial law, much less file a lawsuit.

it's fucking deranged, but that's where we're at.

[–] Buddahriffic 13 points 3 months ago

The immunity thing doesn't give the president full power over everything. It just means the president can't be held accountable for crimes they commit for "official reasons".

Biden can't just dictate whatever he wants. The avenue for dictator power is via using that immunity to remove political opponents or incite mobs to do it for him.

Which Trump will do, if he gets in it will go from 0-100 during that first week, he probably already has a list of people that need to be removed and will use the reaction to that list to make the next list, with the goal of removing as much institutional support as he can for the insurrection that will follow once the masses realize just how serious things are.

[–] CharlesDarwin 8 points 3 months ago

How about the Biden admin declares a few official acts - very precise, such as arresting Johnson and anyone else complicit in such things, as well as those directing such things, and send them all to Gitmo (or given a drumhead court-martial if the admin so chooses). All complicit qons are replaced by Democrats, and life moves on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

"totally legal" doesn't mean anything at that point. Anyone can declare a coup is legal, but what matters is how everyone else reacts.

[–] TurnpikeRangers 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

~~Do you have a source for this? Is this an actual plan they've talked about or is it just a possibility?~~

Nvm, just saw the comment with the article