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[–] cheese_greater 245 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

He probably literally can't. Like MAYBE if his staff hangs around with a cattle prod and teleprompter maybe they can hide it for a while but dementia patients often can't retain new information, they circle back again and again to whatever knowledge/memories that were locked in before their deterioration stepped up to their current slope downwards.

I wouldn't be surprised it this is a huge part of why they're panicking so desperately. This is cataclysmic and I can't wait to watch it unfold

[–] [email protected] 129 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Something tells me that if Biden, Hillary and Obama were to start stumping for Harris and the media covered it, Trump would have no idea who he was actually facing in the election. There's no way his handlers would be able to keep him focused.

[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It would be a pleasant alternate reality if some reporter who was doing an interview with Trump would start giving him a cognitive test live on air.

You wouldn’t have to make it formal. Just ask a few questions about Obama, get him talking about Obama’s policies, maybe the Iran nuclear deal. And then suddenly ask, “Who’s your opponent, Donald?” Soft and friendly like a serial killer. “Who are you running against in this election?”

“What year is it, Donald? What’s the day of the week?”

“Who’s this, Donald?” and put up a picture of Nikki Haley.

“What year did Covid happen, Donald? Can you remember?”

Give him lots of long silences to try to figure the answers out. Don’t interrupt, don’t distract him, don’t move on. Just let the dead air play out until he can’t stand it and says something. But if it’s not the answer… ask again. Tell him it’s okay if he doesn’t remember, but you want to give him another try.

Before you do it, set up his mic all tangled and firmly fastened, so if he tries to stand up and leave, he can’t get it off, and keep the camera running while he struggles. Keep asking questions while he’s trying to free himself. Politely and calmly, but don’t stop.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A little off topic but I've been listening to the Alex Jones depositions on the knowledge fight podcast (highly recommend) and that was kinda similar. Not in a cognitive test way, but seeing his fish gallop technique running into a wall is so satisfying.

For example the plaintiffs lawyer asks a question, Jones uses that as a jumping off point for one of his famous nonsense rants and they just let him ramble for 2 minutes and then the lawyer answers in a very calm manner - "Mr. Jones, that was not my question, my question was ..." Repeatedly until they got a straight answer, "Mr Jones I have all day to get the answers I need."

Once or twice the lawyer even interrupted him with "Babababab! Please just answer my question!" Or "What are you even talking about?" Jones was so caught in his show persona that he stood no chance of avoiding to answer unpleasant questions.

His dad was way more in control of the court room, giving yes or no answers, keeping it short, like someone who listens to his lawyers should do.

The scariest dude in the depositions was one of his editors, a nice sounding guy, who hated Alex Jones, knew that what they were doing was harmful bullshit but continued to do it for years without caring about the impact. The mundanity of evil.

[–] Serinus 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's "gish gallop". Don't forget to fix it after the inevitable autocorrect. If you just type "gish" a hundred times... then you'll never be able to write "fish" again.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lets be real, he'd walk out. A few years ago I heard an NPR interview with him not too long after Jan 6th and he clearly only took them up on it because he had been mostly de-platformed and was struggling to land interviews right then. He talked over the reporter then hung up. The entire thing was only about 6 minutes long

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

Yes, if he’s still capable of realizing he’s being played, he’ll either attack back or end it.

He’s doesn’t seem to have the quiet peaceful dementia (yet, maybe). He has the paranoid violent kind where he still likely knows he’s losing it much of the time.

I’ve had 2 different in-laws go through Alzheimer’s. One went from Mr. Rogers nice, to swearing and upset, especially when he lost control of some of his bodily functions. Thankfully Covid got him early in the pandemic and he didn’t have to suffer through starvation.

My MIL however was pleasant and calm, and eventually succumbed to dehydration when she forgot how to swallow. We need proper right to die laws in the US.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Imagining this makes me so happy. This idea needs to spread so some reporter sees it and does it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My favorite cognitive question ever is when I heard a paramedic ask a patient "Is Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?"

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[–] Dragomus 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would be hilarious if all three showed up at the debate location (if it even happens) to show support to Harris, I think the orange man would blue screen. :-D

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[–] NounsAndWords 61 points 1 month ago

It took him years to get over Clinton. He's got 4 months now, and Biden is still President so he's gonna have an even tougher time trying to keep it straight in his dementia-riddled mind.

[–] schema 24 points 1 month ago

It was also visible in the debate. They told him "whatever question comes up, bring up immigrants". If Trump had been forced to actually answer any of the questions, his dementia would have been much more obvious.

[–] dogsnest 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

...teleprompter....

Speaking of which:
Wasn't there something about Trump's wound being the result of a bullet-shattered teleprompter, not an actual bullet?

What became of that? Not to minimize the heinousness of the act, but he didn't take a bullet...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It was speculated on, but it turns out that he was indeed hit with a bullet and the teleprompter wasn’t even damaged.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fact-check-hit-with-a-bullet-glass-from-teleprompter-did-not-injure-trump/ar-BB1qaE1H

[–] dogsnest 26 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Thanks!
Now I can stop spreading misinfo through speculation!

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[–] [email protected] 184 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Refusing to acknowledge reality is a common theme for maga.

[–] eran_morad 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also for those with dementia.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago

Lot of overlap there.

[–] Ghostalmedia 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They all cheered at the convention when someone said Obama is secretly still in control of the WhiteHouse.

The RNC is basically the party of conspiracy theories through and through.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

I'm remembering a trump tweet while he was in the white house complaining about the deep state doing something and all I could think is "You're the freaking president, you are the deepstate you bafoon!"

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is so tiresome and annoying. His “bad” nickname for her is “smiling Kamala”. Really? That’s your big bad criticism?

I guess the unsmiling misery of the last 8 is supposed to be status quo now?

[–] makyo 32 points 1 month ago (4 children)

People will hear how he describes it and then see her and realize it isn't crazy at all, it's really friendly and welcoming. You can tell she's really excited and enthusiastic about the job she has ahead of her.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How soon until he refers to Harris as "Hillary" or his other nemesis "Nancy"?

[–] AWistfulNihilist 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hell he might throw a Niki in there! This whole situation has taken me from being low key terrified to can't wait for what next.

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dementia Don the racist rapist with 34 felonies that complete a coherent sentence is once again showing he's too old to run our great country. He needs to step down, it's embarrassing.

[–] this_1_is_mine 18 points 1 month ago

Don't forget he likes to look at all the little bodies. Having been the owner of some miss USA pagents his time was always known as the creepy don days.

[–] Olhonestjim 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's too senile to change tactics. I'm willing to bet half the reason he chose Vance was because they knew he was going to screw up and say Pence a bunch, and the similarity of pronunciation would give them plausible deniability.

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[–] breadsmasher 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

“Tomorrow trump will wake up and forget biden even dropped out!” - dementia addled trump

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[–] danc4498 49 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They also don’t know the difference between socialism and communism. His voters are morons.

[–] skeezix 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Think of how stupid the average conservative is then remember half of them are stupider than that.

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[–] Loce 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] samus12345 34 points 1 month ago

Good, good, keep running against the wrong guy. Your dumb cultists will stay enraged, as you like them, but those who are possible to actually reach might be turned off by it.

[–] beebarfbadger 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why would he? In his fantasy world, Biden is his easy opponent, he's perfectly innocent and not a convicted criminal at all, he is actually the smartest person alive, instead of just the smartest person he's ever been. Why would he join us in reality when his imaginary happy place that's shared by millions of FOX viewers is so much more attractive?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

just the smartest person he's ever been

He's not even that. His brain is clearly deteriorating.

[–] Blum0108 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good luck trying to convince his brain that.

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[–] slickgoat 33 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Trump would be crazy to try and debate her.

So, he probably will. Good times.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

No he won't. He's already doing a cop out saying he will only debate her if Fox hosts and moderates.. Which I believe is impossible since the agreed networks (one of them isn't Fox) have already been agreed

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Fox is also an entertainment network, not a news network, as they themselves have claimed.

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[–] ZombieMantis 29 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Sometimes, when people get older, they get a little confused. It happens. Donald, he's getting up there, and maybe he's just feeling a little confused again. Like that time he mixed up Nikki Haley with Nancy Pelosi.

Maybe he should drop out of the race, let someone a little younger and more aware take over.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 29 points 1 month ago (9 children)

I wish they'd stop using pics of dementia donnie with the maxi pad on his ear. The less we are reminded about another Republican trying to take this clown out, the better.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Step 1: Denial

How long before his old brain processes all the stages of grief?

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[–] DarkDecay 23 points 1 month ago

He so old, he must be confused

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Old Sleepy Don rambles incoherently about those competent presidents, Obama and Biden, even if they aren't running. We need a debate ASAP to see how Harris chews Old Don Poorleone up and spits him out.

[–] eran_morad 16 points 1 month ago

Bitch too old, I’m not sure he has the cognition to grasp the new reality.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

Too demented to remember. Sad. Big sad

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