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[–] jordanlund 176 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Counter offer: Pass a law barring people facing felony charges from running for President.

If it would keep you from owning a gun:

ATF form 4473, line 21c and d:

"c. Are you under indictment or information in any court for a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could imprison you for more than one year, or are you a current member of the military who has been charged with violation(s) of the Uniform Code of Military Justice and whose charge(s) have been referred to a general court-martial?

d. Have you ever been convicted in any court, including a military court, of a felony, or any other crime for which the judge could have imprisoned you for more than one year, even if you received a shorter sentence including probation?"

Why should you be allowed the button? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Super easy for those in power to keep their rivals from being able to run for office. Currently the president and afraid you'll be unseated by the opposing party's candidate? Just start an investigation on them! Boom, no more rivals.

[–] credo 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I upvoted both of you. This requires deeper debate.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Totally agree. These systems are critically important for our society. They need to be considered with care, and we need to be mindful of the complexities that come with any changes to them.

[–] billiam0202 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The real solution is you need a populace that is civically engaged and capable of enough critical thought to not fall for the right-wing fearmongering propaganda Fox, OAN, Newsmax, Murdoch, et al. spew out.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bingo. A properly funded and functional public education system, that teaches real critical thinking and let’s include media literacy while we’re at it.

[–] Nycto 9 points 1 month ago

Not saying that they were right, because they were wrong, but this was actually a presented logical reason why voting was restricted to male landowners at one point. They were the only part of the population that received a formal education. Regardless of motivation this became a method of oppression.

To be clear, I agree that public education is a key to a strong democracy, as is removing restrictions on voting.

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[–] jordanlund 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Assuming a corrupt system, yes. But in our current system? Not so much. Trump deserves each of his felony indictments and if it would keep him from buying a gun, which it does, it should block him from being Commander in Chief.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

I don't think our current system is nearly as robust as you think. Trump's first term laid that bare.

So many laws dictating what the president can and can't do don't have any actual repercussions for breaking them written in them because it was assumed impeachment would be sufficient. Trump showed that with our current system that means if you can't guarantee you'll have 67 votes in the Senate, then those laws may as well not exist. And every week the Supreme Court shows how much "settled case law" isn't anymore, so with a corrupt high court in his league, even the laws that do have teeth may be subverted.

We absolutely need to make changes to shore up the system and plug the gaps, but we have to do so with care that we don't end up handing new, more powerful weapons to the very bad actors we're trying to protect against.

[–] lemmefixdat4u 16 points 1 month ago

The problem is not that Trump is under felony indictment. It's not that he's a liar, a cheater, a misogynist, narcissist, and elitist. It's that, knowing this, a lot of people STILL support him for our nation's top office. That's how screwed up our populace has become. That's the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Wouldn't it take more than an investigation? A grand jury would need to sign off on the indictments.

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[–] eatthecake 106 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Among the bill’s cosponsors is House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.), who recently told Politico, “I think it’s common sense that you can’t have the president sitting in the Oval Office worried about whether some lawyer or some local DA somewhere is going to go after him.”

How is this common sense? Politicians are in urgent need of more fear of the law and voters.

[–] Kayday 39 points 1 month ago

Can you imagine if this was normalized for the president, and then over time became acceptable for other people?

"You can't have congress people worried about whether some lawyer will go after them."

"You can't have CEO's worried about whether the DA will go after them."

"You can't expect your boss to worry about whether you will go after them."

"You can't expect your pastor to worry about whether the faithless will go after them."

[–] RGB3x3 17 points 1 month ago

They're so out of touch with the rest of the world, they think they should be immune from prosecution.

And yet they don't seem to realize that most people think prison is the best place for all of them. Nobody gives a fuck about their well-being or their "worries."

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 13 points 1 month ago

In other words, “Let’s strip out one of the checks and balances built in to the country in order to ensure we get the very dictator king the founders sought to prevent.”

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I'd like to be able to commit unlimited acts that violate state laws, please."

What the literal fuck.

[–] billiam0202 77 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republicans: "We see no problems with this whatsoever."

Remember: they aren't arguing Trump didn't break the law, they're arguing that the Democrats are wrong to prosecute him for it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

they're arguing that the Democrats are wrong to prosecute him for it.

Also worth saying that Democrats aren't prosecuting him. This has been a recurring piece of disinformation spread by Republicans since the first official charge against Trump.

He broke the law. The justice system is prosecuting him. Not Biden, not Democrats, but the judicial branch of the government.

[–] FuglyDuck 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah. Best they can do is... a few bullshit gestures that will go no where.

unless they win.

[–] Sam_Bass 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Candyass pussy should be stripped of everything and exiled to putinland to shut him up

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe if Trump loses he'll move to Russia and fuck things up over there instead

[–] Sam_Bass 8 points 1 month ago

That would sure lighten the country's mood

[–] Everythingispenguins 7 points 1 month ago

Or fall out a window.

[–] mightyfoolish 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is proof that for the ruling class life really is just a game... of Monopoly ™️ .

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Nah, monopoly was way more fair. This is like monopoly with house rules. You all know what I am talking about. You give shady loans to your sister, just to keep the game going. After you own everything you give big payouts to players to make real time rule changes. No? OK, maybe I am the only psycho that played late stage monopoly.

[–] Fedizen 38 points 1 month ago

He wants a "too big to fail" law for politicians. Its so stupid and short sighted, but its an obvious result of a narcissist under pressure.

[–] disguy_ovahea 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sounds like someone’s broadcasting his confidence in the NY criminal trial defense.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago

He's scared lol.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

huh so he's THAT desperate?

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[–] cultsuperstar 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it sounds like they're wording this that it would cover 'former presidents' so in theory Biden would also be protected. The GOP wouldn't be able to go after him for their made up charges. Are they willing to protect Trump and not go after Biden? Probably, if it ensures Trump will be president again.

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[–] DMBFFF 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

GOP legislators better do what Trump wants if they know what's good for them.

Come on, neo-cons, kneel down and kiss his ring.

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[–] mojo_raisin 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

He'll be dead after a second term lol. It's a (evil) miracle he's made it this far on a cocaine and fast food diet.

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[–] werefreeatlast 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can they also pass a law forcing both Stormy Daniels and Hilary to suck him dry?

Ofcourse once that written in the books, all we gotta do is go find a vampire and get him to bite Hilary and Stormy. Then my master evil plan would probably work.

But whatever, sure, another trial? Yeah I'm sure we'll get him this time! What did he do now? Run a red light? That's 20 shots to the head if you're a poor Mexican or black. But not previous Trump. He gets yet another trial. That's what rich assholes get.

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[–] suction 7 points 1 month ago

Ok but Biden still isn’t in Gaza to act as human shield which means I’m gonna vote for Trump, twice!

[–] SeattleRain 7 points 1 month ago

They'll pass it too.

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