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As Donald Trump increasingly infuses his campaign with Christian trappings while coasting to a third Republican presidential nomination, his support is as strong as ever among evangelicals and other conservative Christians.

“Trump supports Jesus, and without Jesus, America will fall,” said Kimberly Vaughn of Florence, Kentucky, as she joined other supporters of the former president entering a campaign rally near Dayton, Ohio.

Many of the T-shirts and hats that were worn and sold at the rally in March proclaimed religious slogans such as “Jesus is my savior, Trump is my president” and “God, Guns & Trump.” One man’s shirt declared, “Make America Godly Again,” with the image of a luminous Jesus putting his supportive hands on Trump’s shoulders.

Many attendees said in interviews they believed Trump shared their Christian faith and values. Several cited their opposition to abortion and LGBTQ+ rights, particularly to transgender expressions.

Nobody voiced concern about Trump’s past conduct or his present indictments on criminal charges, including allegations that he tried to hide hush money payments to a porn actor during his 2016 campaign. Supporters saw Trump as representing a religion of second chances.

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[–] [email protected] 166 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Sometimes I wonder what it’s like to be this dumb.

[–] credo 93 points 1 month ago (3 children)

My life is needlessly difficult because I try to understand stupid people. It wears me out.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's like somewhere in the ancient past someone wished that stupidity was painful, but forgot to specify who it should be painful for.

[–] Beldarofremulak 15 points 1 month ago

I REALLY hate genies...

[–] Carrolade 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A historical context helps out with this. They're just us from 500 years ago. Even this divinely ordained stuff is straight out of history textbooks, the divine right to rule that medieval kings claimed.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

yea, sometimes these guys sound like the christian mobs from the early "dark ages", the ones who destroyed pagan symbols e.g. Hypatia.

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[–] aeronmelon 27 points 1 month ago

The irony being that the only way to understand it is to be that dumb. But if you were that dumb, you wouldn't understand it nor would you try to because you'd think you are smart.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Some people are completely lost in the modern world. They shut down completely whenever anyone aims any critic at them and congregate to unquestioningly hold on to what they recognize. It is basic human instinct and being smart sometimes just pushes some of these people into taking advantage of the system and leading this herd mentality, instead of taking a risk trying to wake them up.

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[–] disguy_ovahea 93 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Jesus was an anti-war, anti-capitalist, inclusivity-preaching socialist who gave free healthcare to the sick and free food to the hungry. Maybe they should crack open that book they always talk about.

[–] Plum 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If "anyone can talk to god, you don't need all the ceremony" can turn into the Catholic Church et al for 1,900+ years, I don't think they're gonna read for comprehension on inclusion.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

"anyone can talk to god, you don't need all the ceremony"

That's really close to why the Protestant Reformation happened, out of which all sorts of other lunacy has sprung. I'm not defending the Catholic Church by any means, but this particular criticism might not hit as hard as you intended it to.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You left out the apocalyptic zombie cannibal cult part.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 72 points 1 month ago (5 children)

If Trump hasn’t paid for a dozen abortions I’d be surprised.

How do people look and listen to the guy and project all these values that they think are good on him?

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i see it as validation that religion itself is a grift... an exploitation of a crack in the human psyche.

the same mechanism that helps people ignore the ridiculousness of %religion% lets them ignore the terrible behaviors of its participants.

maybe add a dash of mass-psychosis.. throw in a huge, daily serving of faux news propaganda and here we are

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago

I take them at their word - he's their true selves revealed.

[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 1 month ago

I have never heard an interviewer ask if he has ever paid for an abortion. I mean I know he wouldn't answer honestly, but they never even ask.

[–] gAlienLifeform 8 points 1 month ago

They think he'll be good for them, so they lie and say he'll be good for us

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 month ago

If Trump shares your values, fuck your values.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago (4 children)

How the hell am I living in the same reality as these people? Where do they get their info from?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago

Church.

This behavior is the purpose of religion.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His actual actions aren't important, because his results are "holy."

If you asked them about a "demon rat" that had doen exactly what their "holy" man had done, they would rant endlessly about his vile acts and his damnation.

Their zealotry is transactional, that's all. Give them what they want, and you can be their savior too.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Obama wore a suit, and he got shit because they didn't like the color.

Trump on the other hand, wears diapers and has inspired his moronic base to wear them publicly as well. Not just, under their clothing like a normal person, they think its better than pants.

-Written from a republican hell hole.

[–] xanu 17 points 1 month ago

well, their problem wasn't exactly because of the color of the suit

[–] AngryCommieKender 12 points 1 month ago
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[–] FlyingSquid 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump supports Jesus

Trump supports putting Jesus, the immigrant, into a deportation camp.

[–] NOT_RICK 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His base doesn’t even realize Jesus was an immigrant

[–] FlyingSquid 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

His base thinks that Jesus was a white, English-speaking American who hated poor people and taxes.

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[–] DrSleepless 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

TIL fucking a porn star while your wife is pregnant is within christian values.

[–] Delusional 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And stealing from cancer charities. trump may as well just change his name to Jesus.

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[–] cosmicrookie 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Not only within, but way above average. If not, they wouldn't look up to him like this.

That said, I have read some of them call Jesus too woke to be Christian

Newsweek article

The Damage report

TNR

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 month ago

Kinda weird since Trump is basically The Anti-Christ: Dumbass Edition

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it feels like we're on the highway and 60% of drivers are blindfolded and smiling

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thats okay because Jesus took the wheel for them.

[–] kromem 8 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately for them, Jesus never got his driver's license.

[–] teamevil 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's amazing... stupid people who think invisible sky wizard is guiding their life and stupid enough to think that Trump ever thinks about them. God it's like half this country gets off on being a cuckold without knowing it.

[–] rayyy 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Stupid people are actually controlled by rich oligarchs through news and right wing propaganda but they think they are independent rebels.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Name something that Jesus would love about Donald Trump.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

He's a child of God and therefore worthy of love. Trump obviously sucks, but Jesus said "love your neighbour" and that includes Trump. Of course, God would send Trump to hell when he dies so bit of a mixed message there. Religion is weird sometimes...

[–] ours 11 points 1 month ago

"Jesus loves sinners" but that's about it and a bit of a Catch-22 at it.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Every comment I have seen so far, has the wrong take on this. Christians aligning with Trump is basically the same thing as when the Christians aligned with the Nazis. They are both selling the same shit, a return to a time where the father was dictator of his own home and ruled with an iron fist. All you have to do is embrace the dictator of the country, and you can have that.

That's half the reason Christians are Christians in the first place. Fascism just makes those ideas more mainstream and allows for the laws to embrace the concept.

[–] Etterra 16 points 1 month ago

The doublethink these "Christians" maintain to avoid cognitive dissonance and critical self reflection are staggering

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're idiots. They say a lot of very stupid things.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

How fucking gullible can you get? Either that or they're being major hypocrites.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

it just boils down to him hating and hurting the 'right' people.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Weird. Pretty obvious Jesus would have been against Trump.

[–] BigTrout75 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does Biden going to church not count?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Yes but Biden is a human being while Trump is positioning himself as a representative of Jesus, creating a cult.

[–] Fedizen 9 points 1 month ago

basically they all want to be powerful and unaccountable - aka adult babies.

[–] Son_of_dad 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right, Trump does kind of represent the epitome of Christian values

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