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More energy like this from the democrats please. I yearn for these crocodile tears. I would like to wish Marjorie a very merry BAAAWWWWWWWW
Yeah, and...?
The key point here is that an insurrection against fascism is justified, while an insurrection in favor of it is not.
Liberty and tyranny are not fucking morally equivalent!
While I'll grant Trailer Trash Barbie knows a thing or two about insurrection, bitch don't know a goddamn thing about patriotism.
Unfortunately, that is what we are left with. All the other means of change have been and continue to be disabled and otherwise shutdown
We are already at "war". A strange feature of modern (idealism) warfare is to keep your opponents from realizing while you advance your armies.
At what point to left-leaning states governors start building up their own militias?
I'm asking this as a Canadian, I honestly don't know what the process is vis a vis state militia vs federal military.
Up until recently I felt like at a certain point, there were lines that the military would not cross regarding Trump orders. But now I'm kind of terrified that they really haven't pushed back at all, meaning if it comes down to it, it's all going to up to the individual states.
I've already written my governer to ask to be on a mailing list for any state sponsored militias. I also said that he should very seriously entertain the notion of filing charges against Trump, Musk, Vance, and all of their cabinet and appointees and court nominations for Treason. Treason can be filed at both the state and federal level, and there have been a number of successful convictions of treason at the state level.
More importantly, it saddles trump and his cronies with charges that will make it justified for both state and federal militias to remove them from power by any means necessary. At that point just deputize members of your state militia, and they will have to take an oath to protect the nation from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. They now have legal protections backed by the charges filed by the state. Now you fund those militia's and give them military kit, and refuse to cooperate with federal officials until a new election has been held and trump has been removed from power.
This is a fucking war, and the victors will write the history of it. The most important part is that facism and all of its supporters lose, and suffer the full consequences for their actions.
It doesn't matter what you do to republicans now, just do it swiftly and severly, and the next president can pardon you and tie up the loop holes.
The same tactics that facists are using to destroy the country CAN also be used to save it. We just have to act with strength and conviction.
State militias already exist, we call them "National Guard"
Well not exactly. The Executive branch is the top authority for the National Guard. If Trump wants to send the California National Guard to the Texas border with Mexico he can.
The closest analogue to a militia would be the California Highway Patrol. Trump can't command them to do shit about fuck. However they're not really on par as far as logistics and material. Considering they don't have an airforce, or any appreciable armor assets.
Technically yes. But if the Governor refuses things get interesting. And in a National Guard unit they're far more likely to side with the Governor than the President.
Yep it would be another constitutional crisis
Which nobody would even be contemplating without the first constitutional crisis going on.
It's crisis all the way down
Yup
I didn't know that. You sure are a correct horse battery staple, thanks
Is it really an insurrection if you're trying to save a government from destruction by outsiders?
Depends on who you ask. If its someone sane then no, but if it's someone who is working with the current administration then the answer is yes.
I am frankly terrified at this insinuation and I think we will see some serious repercussions from this, on one side or the other. This feels like it will be used as an excuse by the Republicans to detain or even murder opposition.
This feels like it will be used as an excuse by the Republicans to detain or even murder opposition.
They're going to do that anyway, with or without an excuse. Trump has openly talked about it.
This feels like it will be used as an excuse by the Republicans to detain or even murder opposition.
The state has done that long before Trump... The US routinely arrests the opposition voices, on thin pretenses.
The Republicans thought the same thing, to be fair. The difference is that we can be 100% confident that they’re pumped full of the most insane propaganda and are astoundingly stupid to believe that their team isn’t the most wild, overt version of everything they claim is evil.
Obviously it is. But not all insurrections are wrong.
Committing an insurrection because you lost an election is far less laudable than committing insurrection against an increasingly fascist dictatorship.
Insurrection when you're just mad you lost an election: 😁
Insurrection when your government is doing blatantly illegal things and the branch of government and party to which you belong refuses to hold anyone accountable because you're all complicit traitors: 😡
Left wing still doesn't know how to respond to the instigators...
You don't say "but you did it for invalid reasons".
You say stuff like
"CANCEL CULTURE!! I'm being CANCELLED!"
"DONT MESS WITH MY RIGHTS UNLESS YOU WANT TO FIND OUT!"
"Snowflakes can't handle the TRUTH"
Etc.
R is the false equivalence party, no doubt.
There's a protest planned for today near you. If you'd like to attend below is a bit of info.
Some more media mentions, mostly local and brief:
edit:
BONUS:
near you.
I appreciate the effort, but this sort of minimizes just how far a lot of people are from a state capital, and how unlikely they can just up and take a day in the middle of the week to just go to their state capital. Particularly on what was, at most, a week's notice. This just seems doomed to produce an underwhelming turnout.
It's a general notice of information. If you're near a capital show up and check it out.
"Democrat lunatics want us all dead, and have declared war on all of us. Protect your family accordingly," wanted the American Firearms Association on Facebook.
Holly shit, are these people shameless.
The Republican party has long referred to the events of January 6th as "legitimate political discourse", and Trump even went so far as to pardon those who stormed the capital on January 6th.
Well, if it's legitimate political discourse, there shouldn't be any problem in us doing it either.
Well, it is a Nazi government now, so, what are you gonna do?
Republicans have been saying they were at war for the past decade+ But I suppose it's "controversial" now since a Dem has said it.
Yeah, restoring the Constitution is now insurrection.
Just like voting for Trump was to help the Palestinians.
Oh look, the kiddie fiddlers and book burners that accuse others of being pedos and anti free speech are accusing people of things again.
Lol MGT. Didn't she want Georgia to secede? That girl has no business being where she is, but neither do most of our politicians.
A call for insurrection? Like when she put pipe bombs all over the capital?
Yeah I said when we say it, nobody is trying to remove the metal detectors from around the Capitol building and stockpiling guns in nearby hotel rooms, placing pipe bombs in the streets. Nope, that's just Republicans. And that's why they have their motto "we are all domestic terrorists."
That's only because Antifa hasn't shown up yet. But they only show up when the cops show... oh.
Antifa needs to be what they always say Antifa is.
Seems the only people offended are the Nazis. So, good for McIVer.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Oh man, Americans might do something to fight back against Fascism.
(I am legitimately cheering you on from up North <3)
Good. That's what I want to hear from elected Democrats. The left didn't bring us here. If the GOP wants war, I think it's time we give it to them.
I seem to be getting a freedom-boner. Does this mean they're going to do something about the coup instead of just talk about it?
At least one Dem is using the correct terminology for what is going on.
Always projection with the assholes like Marge.
Could it be? Has the collective spine of Dems finally grown in?
No