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Any Generators, Power Banks, Solar Panels, etc...?

Edit: So I'm gonna answer my own question. I'll probably freak out and would have zero generators to deal with it. Heater is Gas, but I don't know if gas would work during power outage. Cooking, well there's a butane burner stove. I have 3 10000mah batteries, but they have 60% efficiency due to power loss during transfer, so its effectively 6000mah, enough to roughly charge my 5000mah battery once, 3 batteries is 3-4 charges. Then I'd be bored with zero entertainment, along with all the food melting and going bad, very not fun πŸ™ƒ

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I can probably survive as long as water is available. I assume, heating (gas) will fail, but then the house temperature will only drop slowly and a sleeping bag with some blankets should keep us alive. Food? Tough, I don't keep much food and most of what i have is refrigerated. But then things don't spoil instantly. I would first eat what's in the fridge, then from the freezer, then whatever is kept at room temperature.

I guess two weeks. The real problem is all the other people and no functioning police, fire brigade, ambulance. I don't grow my own food or hunt, so this will be practical problem, but I'm more afraid of all the other people who are also desperate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I will eat my neighbors raw if I have to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is your neighbor rich? A literal "Eat The Rich" moment?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

No I am admitting to possible cannibalism.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm literally dead in about a week. All of my heating, cooking, and refrigeration are electric, and I have no backup supply or the means to safely add a backup. So I'd have no food, very little water, and I'd freeze to death.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago

Try downloading this guide and following some of the advice in it. It's Sweden's emergency preparedness guide.

https://www.msb.se/sv/publikationer/om-krisen-eller-kriget-kommer-pa-engelska/

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Damn, its scary how everyone is so reliant on the "grid" to survive. πŸ˜–

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I have a fireplace, a spring, and laying hens. I'd be fine, just incredibly bored.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I... um... What's the spring for? 🀨

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Water spring, not metal spring.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Oh! Hahaha that makes a lot more sense πŸ˜„

[–] MapleEngineer 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

We live in a large straw bale house in the country. We have a generator (and a dozen large gas cans which we rotate by filling our van then refilling the gas cans) which runs all the lighting circuits, the fridge and freeer, our propane in-floor radiant heat, water well, and our propane tanlkess DHW. We also have a wood stove in the center of the house that we can use to heat the house very effectively and more than a winter's worth of good, dry hardwood in an enclosed wood shed. We have ample supplies of food and other necessities.

Durign major weather events we leave our front door unlocked and our friends and neighbors know that they can come, bringing bedding and just find an open couch or floor space.

We'll be fine for a good long while

[–] WoodScientist 15 points 1 week ago

My God in Heaven, you live in a Norman Rockwell painting.

[–] Speculater 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You built your house out of hay and people seek safety there? I'm getting real big bad wolf vibes and a trap situation from this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

Straw bale construction isn't hay, and its characteristics will probably surprise you: https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/straw-bale-construction

Straw bales have up to three times the R-value of conventional home insulation, along with excellent soundproofing and fireproofing characteristics.

[–] MapleEngineer 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jesus Marie, they're minerals not rocks!

[–] MapleEngineer 4 points 1 week ago

Hay is grass and other plants. Straw is the stems of cereal grains. Hay has substantial nutritional value and will rot. Straw is cellulose and won't rot.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

My family probably wouldn't make it past 3 weeks. We are dependent on rechargeable electronic insulin pumps. Pumps last 3-5 days. Can be recharged on a laptop, maybe 2-3 times. Can recharge in the car a few times. Our real problem is no food.

[–] ivanafterall 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

As Hurricane Helene recently reminded me, pretty much nobody is prepared. Even the people/my family members who like to think they're prepared. Nope. Didn't really help.

[–] hasnt_seen_goonies 4 points 1 week ago

We lost power for at least a week after Helene. There were plenty of people that weren't prepared and freaked out, but by and large, I saw people pitching together to share fuel, food, water and company. It was a tough time, but it was nice seeing the kinder side of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's because the best preparation is a strong knit small commune worth of people (20-100) with diverse skills, good planning and community coordination, that's set up somewhere away from disaster prone areas with plently of arable land and abundant natural water.

The above is way more difficult than the average American plan : one nuclear family of various ages, a shelf of canned goods, way too little water, a propane stove, and a gun.

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[–] Droggelbecher 10 points 1 week ago

Got an old wood stove that's not really in use, but could be used for heat and cooking. Not entirely sure if could get dry wood quickly, but it probably get it to burn. I've done many a campfire with freshly collected wood.

I'm also vegan, so most of my protein sources are legumes, which are either canned or dried, ie shelf stable. I buy those as well as rice and other shelf stable things in bulk because there's only the tiniest little shop nearby and i try to stock up whenever I get to borrow a car. What I currently have would probably last me a month of normal eating, so i guess like two if i ration.

If I can shop for things, I could go on indefinitely. Thinking about it, it sounds kind of nice to literally not be able to work on my thesis and get to read and draw a bunch.

[–] lemming741 10 points 1 week ago

Did two weeks after Helene. Generators, UPSs, and self-hosted services kept us entertained and the security cams powered up. There was some rationing for three or four days until the gas stations got power but we were ready. By the second day we were running the air conditioner at night to sleep and didn't miss any football games on tv.

[–] databender 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've got 5000w worth of generators, two wood stoves, water heater and stove are gas, and we have about three months worth of food in feezers/pantry (we stocked up right before covid lockdowns and have kept up with it since). We would probably be good for a while, but we have a lot of family in the area that would shorten that by a bunch.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Been there, done that. I am currently in the home I inherited from my grandfather, and so I have a lot of old-fashioned things like a gas stove and a non-electric refrigerator. Only communication would be any issue.

[–] GreenKnight23 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

careful with catalytic fridges, they will kill you. make sure you install monoxide sensors everywhere around it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Used to love losing power during ice storms as a kid. Sure, I couldn't play Bassin's Black Bass on SNES, but my dad would stoke the fireplace and light up the extremely dangerous kerosine heater that smelled fucking awesome. Then we would chill with my mom on the couch and read Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark.

That kerosine heater never did blow the family up..

[–] GreenKnight23 2 points 6 days ago

dad would stoke the fireplace and light up the extremely dangerous kerosine heater that smelled fucking awesome.

kerosine has that effect on people 🀀

[–] AngryCommieKender 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Solar power on the roof, powerwall battery backup, and 3100 gallons of rainwater. All electric appliances here. We could go weeks without power.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Probably indefinitely, as long as there was food and a source of unfrozen water that can be purified. I've gone camping in temperatures down past -20f for days on end. The cold sucks, but will not kill you as long as you're dressed for it, have a sleep system/shelter to keep you warm, and have enough food to fuel your body. Fuel/fire is downright luxurious in the cold, but not strictly necessary unless you have inadequate insulation from the cold and your body can't keep up with the heat loss.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same here. I have cold weather sleeping bags and appropriate clothing. I've got light weight cooking gear and water purifiers. I'll be grumpy but otherwise fine.

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[–] johsny 8 points 1 week ago

No problem, happens all the time here. We have had "loadshedding" and random outages for years, so we are well prepared. All the lights in the house is solar, and I have two solar charged power banks (2kw units) for the computers and fridge (if required, the fridge can last two days or so without power, but this is only a problem on overcast days, which is not too often here (South Africa, near Hammanskraal)) recently we have been without water for days at a time, but for that I have 5000 liters of water and solar pressure pump, gas geyser in one of the bathrooms.

[–] lath 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Former communist country, business as usual even though it's been a while since.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

I have a wood burning stove with peltier device powered fans to distribute the heat.

It gets hot enough to boil water so I can cook on it.

And I have about 4 days worth of continuous fire firewood.

So assuming that I couldn't just hop in the car and drive somewhere else I guess I would be okay for about 4 days.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You'd hear me shout, "again?! Damn it".

I got a bunch of antique lamps and a wood fired stove. I also got a generator for the fridge and freezer. So I'll be fine until the cannibals come knocking. If the town runs out of gas I'll just cook everything and invite everyone.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

Can confirm, the last time the power went out I heard someone shout that from a long way off. They must have a superpower to project their voice round the world

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Our generator will kick in within 30 seconds automatically, and has enough fuel to run the entire house for about 2 weeks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

I live in a pretty dense urban center (SΓ£o Paulo), so I just guess the emergency departments on the city are going to take care of us while the energy come back. I have the privilege to live in one of the nicest neighborhoods here, so our infrastructures is well maintained.

[–] andrewta 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

About a month. We have a supply of water and since it’s winter stuff will stay frozen because I can put it outside in the shed. Plenty of wood to cook over. But after a month I’m screwed on that end. I do have a natural gas tank for a grill but the grill doesn’t work. So if I can find a grill to use that will extend my time.

The only problem: toilet. Not sure if water can keep going if there is no power at the water plant and water treatment plant. Maybe they run by solar.

Heating the house. There is a way to use the wood to heat the house. But it won’t be pretty. I don’t need to heat the whole house. Just a part of it.

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[–] froh42 5 points 1 week ago

I'm living in an apartment on the 8th floor. Heating is geothermal heating (from a big geothermal plant owned by the city I live in). So no heating in winter. My second worry would be the food spoiling in the freezer. I'd probably move everything down into the car to drive to my family's place (that's a bit of work, 8th floor, no elevator) and then notice that my car is trapped inside the garage below our apartment block due to the electric garage doors not opening. I'd probably get some help from other people in the house opening them by hand (might involve dismounting of the electronics box).

In other words, in case of a longer city-wide outage I'm screwed.

In case it's a shorter one and my electric window blinds in the bedroom are still closed, I wouldn't worry and find someone to screw.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Depends if we can shop. We've got a couple weeks of canned food longer in rice and pasta and a gas hob so cooking isn't a problem. Could work through the fridge and freezer in a week before it all went off. Got plenty of books, boardgames and camping gear so we'd be able to keep warm and entertained. I need to get some more solar options ideally some big panels for the roof. Our heating is gas but I suspect that it wouldn't work without electricity. Luckily our living room has a gas fire.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Probably pretty long. There’s plenty of wood and propane, dry food, and salt to preserve things.

[–] Dagnet 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Got a gas stove, gas water heating and hybrid car. Could probably survive indefinitely assuming I can still shop, if I can't then I would die even with electricity. Hell, i would be forced to finally revive my reading habits and work on my book backlog, maybe it would be a little good.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The longest power outage I've ever done was 2 weeks. The town kept the water and sewer going, we kept warm with a kerosene heater. My current house has a natural gas heater. I don't keep like gallons of water stored up but I have a camp stove and a gas grill, I can cook if I need to, and we have three vehicles fueled and ready.

I'm prepared for basically any natural disaster that leaves the state government in power. If it's so bad that the governor isn't around to give a press conference than I'm either also already dead or I'm going to be the guy that flies an F/A-18 into the alien's superlaser.

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[–] Alexstarfire 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Long enough to where if power hasn't come back by then, it's not coming back at all. And at that point, power isn't going to be the biggest problem.

Water heater holds ~40 gallons and that's easily drainable. Worse comes to worst, there's a creek at the back of my property.

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[–] NeoNachtwaechter 4 points 1 week ago

It is less than a day until my home becomes unusable. I need the heating every day because it is winter. The heating runs on gas, but it also needs electricity.

This cannot kill me because the car is still working and the next town is only 10 minutes away.

Power outages around here are very rare, and usually shorter than 6 hours.

[–] AA5B 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I’ll be ok for a bit. My chest freezer will be good for several days, and my family room has a gas heater that doesn’t need electrical. Also gas stove top doesn’t need electrical, and I have a propane grill so cooking is set. For entertainment, I have books on kindle that should be good a couple weeks

Fridge, car, phone good for a day or so until batteries are used up - do we still have cell service? I’d try digging out my camping gear but hopefully didn’t leave fuel with that.

We have excellent power reliability here. I don’t think it’s gone more than 2 hours in the last 20 years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

we still have cell service?

Cell Towers should have a backup battery that last like maybe a few hours? But people might be calling each other in response to the blackout so the networks could get congested and you might not be able to call.

[–] AA5B 1 points 6 days ago

In the two decades I’ve lived here, we’ve never had a power outage long enough or widespread enough to affect cell service.

I don’t even care about calling - who does that anymore? But data is more important in day to day use. I can entertain myself without it, but I’m not sure I still have a working radio receive broadcast TV, so I’d have no way of staying informed

But it is an interesting question - do cell towers also have redundant or special service or be prioritized for restoral of service in an emergency?

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