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Homelessness couldn’t possibly be the result of late stage capitalism though, right?
Elon Musk is a certified piece of shit.
Elon ~~Musk~~ Cunt
We've all agreed that cunt is not suitable to describe him as, per the Internet, "a cunt has warmth and depth"...two qualities that Elon clearly fucking lacks.
Market Capitalism needs homelessness.
If you will not make the owner's money through labor, You will help them make money as capitalist scarecrows. A warning to any laborer thinking of failing to comply.
You WILL serve the owner's greed disease, or else.
It would literally be cheaper to house them without conditions than all the conditioned programs and homeless encampment clean up costs.
But that doesn't send a message of fear.
Herp derp Freedom 🇺🇸
“What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”
Yo this is the most cartoonish out-of-touch shit take I've see. In an election that accused a disenfranchised minority group of eating people's pets!
What an objectively evil thing to think, let alone say.
So... You think people who are homeless are just lying about not having a home?
Can we check this fuckstick for brain worms or just if his brain looks like swiss cheese?
It's so much worse than that. From the article;
“Homeless is a misnomer. It implies that someone got a little bit behind on their mortgage, and if you just gave them a job, they’d be back on their feet,” he told former Fox News personality Tucker Carlson in October. “What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”
Basically, it's not the "homeless" part of "homeless people" he thinks is a lie.
I think the idea is they are too lazy to work for rent. If they really wanted they would go to work and not be homeless anymore. And if they are not able to find any job, they can always do forced labor in a prison system. That's how it was in the USSR. People in power really like this kind of a system
How far up the ivory tower do you need to be to ignore homelessness by denying its existence?
It’s an old old myth. Ronald Reagan said that everyone who is homeless in America is by choice since there’s so many shelters and charities already. It’s incredibly out of touch, but today people like Musk brag about their ignorance.
Sir, you can't sleep here.
"Didn't you hear? I don't exist."
Is there going to be room in the detention camps for the homeless?
Instead of Jews, it's Hispanics. Instead of gypsies, it's the homeless. And instead of trans people....well that one is the same.
Forcing the homeless into privately run concentration camps. What a sick bastard.
"Have they no refuge or resource?" cried Scrooge.
"Are there no prisons?" said the Spirit, turning on him for the last time with his own words. "Are there no workhouses?"
"If they would rather die, they better do it and decrease the surplus population."
Fuckin' hell, fiction is a warning not a guide, you filthy-rich absolute cockwombles.
I seem to recall seeing a Christmas Carol story with Trump when he was last president in which the spirits tried warning him and he didn't get any of it, thinking that everything was just showing that he's the greatest. Accurate.
"claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates."
Uhhh . . . how? "You there! Go be homeless! I need to profit from your utter lack of income."
Kind of like the "self-made billionaire."
He says it’s a lie because he thinks those people are just NPCs
Homelessness is a lie and propaganda? That's news to all the homeless people I used to regularly interact with when I worked down town.
can you imagine how happy they will be? "How did I fall for this? I was really convinced I was homeless!"
Elon Musk is actually bullet proof. Impervious to bullets. I guarantee it.
*Ymmv
It is so disgusting. Print out this news article, stick it to your wall. Read it every day to remember why these people are a disease to society.
Better yet, stick on public walls
For someone that claims to be so data-driven, I'd be curious what data he is looking at here when he calls it a lie. I will say that it is factual that the US spends a lot of money on homelessness and we still have homelessness, but the existence of homelessness is not something I would call a lie.
Musk just went from giant douche to pure evil.
The man is literally insane now.
I suppose it's good he moved to USA, he is fitting in nicely.
Fuck you, I kinda rely on that shit to feed my family because my employer doesnt give out any annual increases or anything. I also use the state health insurance and my wife uses other government assistance programs. Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.
Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.
Dudes want you to die.
This is the danger of elite projection. What his life is like must be how other people's lives are like.
He was successful. If he wanted to get a job, he could. If he did work, he got paid.
If these people aren't doing that, it must be their fault, and they need "treatment" (via institutionalization) in his mind. It couldn't possibly be because to get a job, you often need existing housing, but to get housing, you need money from a job. Or the fact that people like him don't pay enough.
It's always their fault. Individual responsibility, meritocracy and all that jazz.
Of course it's a lie. With his money, he could end it overnight.
Ah yes, it is a "life style" choice and all that jazz..... Not at all the inevitable result of decades plus of poor governance/systemic failures.
Living on latitude 60 where being homeless can (and sometimes does) kill - I think the first step is giving a person who is homeless a place where they can set up a (semi)permanent home. That will go a long way towards solving the underlying issues which a shelter system cannot address.
A relevant paper from the EU Commission:
In February 2008, the Finnish government adopted a programme aimed at halving long-term homelessness by 2011. Referring to the “Housing First” principle, which considers that appropriate permanent accommodation is a prerequisite for solving other social and health problems, the programme seeks to reduce and gradually abandon the use of conventional shelters and change them into supported rented accommodation units.
Outcomes via OECD:
While there is no OECD-wide average against which to compare Finland’s homeless rate of 0.08%, other countries with similarly broad definitions of homelessness provide points of reference, such as neighbouring Sweden (0.33%) or the Netherlands (0.23%). [1]
Finland’s success is not a matter of luck or the outcome of “quick fixes.” Rather, it is the result of a sustained, well-resourced national strategy, driven by a “Housing First” approach, which provides people experiencing homelessness with immediate, independent, permanent housing, rather than temporary accommodation (OECD, 2020).
Getting better outcomes than neighbours is a reliable indicator that a policy does work.
P.S.
Regarding Musk:
"Downregulate Musk" will be my anwer to any mention of this election-buying oligarch, probably for a while. A kneejerking far rightist is no person to call any policies.
Likewise I call billionaires a lie and propaganda.
Depose Musk
Clearly we can solve homelessness by simply terraforming Mars and moving all the homeless there, right?
Yeah, it's not the homeless people that are victims of a cruel society that has not only abandoned but also ostracized them. It's the wealthy that have to share an imperceptible amount of their wealth so that they have somewhere to sleep.