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Summary

Asian American groups are preparing for potential deportations of undocumented Chinese nationals, particularly military-age men, under Trump’s proposed immigration policies.

Sources indicate Chinese nationals may be prioritized due to alleged national security concerns, reflecting broader anti-China sentiment.

Community organizations are creating multilingual resources, coordinating legal support, and educating families on their rights.

Trump’s rhetoric ties Chinese immigrants to fears of espionage, intensifying anxieties.

Advocates highlight the historical targeting of minority groups during national security crises and warn of significant impacts on vulnerable communities, urging solidarity and swift action.

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[–] iAvicenna 12 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The British thought immigrants would be deported after the Brexit too. But then they quickly realized they form the backbone of some of the critical sectors like hospitality, logistics, construction etc. So they quietly pretended like nothing ever happened.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 5 points 1 hour ago

Here in the US, undocumented immigrants form the backbone of food production (agriculture and meat processing) and restaurants, such that mass deportations would cause unimaginable inflation in food prices. I want to think that means the Republicans won't actually do it, but I thought they wouldn't actually overturn Roe v. Wade either.

[–] Regrettable_incident 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah, and the Brexit vote fucked us. Being in the EU was great. Anyone could see that leaving wasn't going to make much difference to immigration.

[–] nutsack 2 points 3 hours ago

i always knew chin yang was a terrorist

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 hours ago

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

—Martin Niemöller

[–] [email protected] 49 points 10 hours ago

My dad remarried a China-nese lady after my mom passed away. He voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I love this lady like my own mom, but the leopard is coming in to eat soon.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Also to anyone saying “well how can they deport a citizen when the other country won’t take them since they’re not one of their citizens?”

That’s the point…. They’ll stay locked up in internment camps because the US “is looking into their citizenship status” and they’ll stay there for an indefinite time.

[–] peopleproblems 47 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

"Then what happens when those get too full?"

Guess what happened in Germany.

[–] pivot_root 21 points 9 hours ago

My money is on them building more camps instead. The prison industrial complex would be very unhappy about slaves going to waste.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In Germany Nazis literally worked them to death (Vernichtung dutch Rabbit)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

I'm assuming it's autocorrect, but there were no Dutch rabbits involved. It's Vernichtung durch Arbeit, extermination through work.

[–] njm1314 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because what's cheaper than even undocumented immigrants labor? Prison labor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think that's true. Imprisoned people have to have their basic needs met by the state (food, shelter, clothing, etc.). People outside prison have to provide that themselves.

[–] njm1314 4 points 5 hours ago

Except the people renting the labor don't have to pay for any of that.

[–] NikkiDimes 1 points 3 hours ago

I don't think gruel and mass-produced orange jumpsuits are going to set them back too far

[–] ChowJeeBai 5 points 8 hours ago

They should know, private prison stocks went up on his winning the election. But after the misinformation and willing ignorance in display, I'm not surprised they don't.

[–] inclementimmigrant 22 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's a lot of Asian faces (39%) for these leopard to eat.

Wouldn't be surprised if they try to strip Asian American citizens, naturalized or natural born, of their citizenship either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

IANAL, but for natural born the only realistic scenario with the current legal setup is accusing them of treason and finding them guilty.

https://www.usa.gov/renounce-lose-citizenship

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Isn't it against international law to make someone stateless?

(Granted, it's not like they'd care about legality)

[–] NikkiDimes 2 points 3 hours ago

That's the fun thing about international law- who's gonna enforce it?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Key word being current. Remember that Republicans will control all three branches of government, including both houses of Congress.

Of course that assumes they follow the law at all.

[–] TotalFat 1 points 5 hours ago

Exactly.. Especially since one branch decided one of the other branches doesn't have to follow the law.

[–] finitebanjo 44 points 14 hours ago (16 children)

Noteworthy, Trump's support from Asian American voters grew 5 points to 39% in 2024.

The AsiansMAGA PAC raised $77,063.89 for Trump, outspending some other Asian American PACs but admittedly not as much as the AAPI.

Not saying they deserve it or anything, but there certainly will be some leopards eating the faces among them.

[–] venusaur 14 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s worth mentioning that there should be some distinction between first and second+ generation immigrants. Often even amongst each other there is division so those who support Trump may not have to worry about being deported.

[–] dhork 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

You are making the mistaken assumption that the brute squad will bother to differentiate between them. How many second+ generation immigrants carry around proof of citizenship, anyway? They can be detained just like anyone else who doesn't look right.

(And it's super easy to carry that now, the passport card is cheap, fits in your wallet, and is a good first line of defense against being disappeared.)

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

How likely do y'all think that I as a US Citizen with Chinese ancestry is gonna get deported.

Becausing looking back in history, e.g the Chinese Exclusion Act, it doesn't give me too much hope.

Welp out of one dicatorship into another 🤷‍♂️

Oh the situation is even more messed up considering the fact that in Chinese law, citizenship is automatically revoked when you obtain foreign citizenship. Guess I could end up stateless, in a CCP dictatorship.

Fuck this world.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 hours ago

My bff and her brother were born here, but I'm extremely worried for them. A couple years ago DARPA approached her brother for the work he did on drone technology in college. I know her parents cut ties with their families in China when they moved here several decades ago, but that doesn't seem like enough to keep them from being harassed at minimum.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on how Americanized you are and how racist your area is.

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[–] friend_of_satan 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

potential risk to national security

Pot, meet kettle.

[–] pivot_root 3 points 9 hours ago

Pot, meet industrial boiler.

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

"undocumented"

Well, I mean, if they're undocumented they're already just one bad luck away from getting deported, the question is, how does he plan to catch them if they're not getting caught already?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Rapidcreek 22 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

During the 1930s when there was a mass Mexican deportation, there were a lot of US citizens rounded up and deported. Don't trust these guys will not make the same mistake. Of course, a decade later, Mexicans streamed across the border to mind farms and ranches while US manpower was in WWII. They kinda helped win the war by keeping the nation and it's troops fed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago

They did it a second time, too.

[–] whygohomie 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What a convenient pretext to round up Beijing's wishlist of exiles.

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