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CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.

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[–] exanime 5 points 1 hour ago

Remember when journalism was a respected profession?

[–] Marleyinoc 22 points 11 hours ago

CBS is owned by Paramount Global who splits their "donations" between parties (heavier toward Democrats). Are we tired of being governed by corporations, yet?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Extremists (hint: not Tim Walz) will be able to just spout lies the whole time, and rational, honest candidates: (hint: not JD Vance) will have to either let them get away with complete bullshit assertions, or spend part of their time doing the job of the moderators... This is why no one believes in Journalism these days...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Let him get away with it, there’s only so many lies that you can prepare for and getting a fact check wrong is worse than just lying

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

The reverse gish gallop!

[–] FuglyDuck 43 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

*CBS is announcing that it will allow the Couchfucker to Gish Gallop.

Fixed that title for you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago

Yeah, and a side effect of refuting gosh gallop, if you even can, is that you end up wasting your time on the floor instead of discussing your points.

[–] inclementimmigrant 50 points 16 hours ago

Bunch of weak ass bullshit.

[–] NatakuNox 43 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Ya this is a dumb move by CBS because it compromises the legitimacy of the debate... But I know Tim Walz is going to wipe the floor with this couch fucker.

[–] RunningInRVA 12 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It compromises the legitimacy of CBS. How can they be okay with blatant lies being aspired on its network?

[–] Sam_Bass 8 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

so theyre gonna let trump lie to his hearts content and walz is just gonna have to listen to him.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well, in this case, it's Vance, not Trump. So, yeah: different lies, same modus operandi.

[–] Sam_Bass 1 points 5 hours ago

vance is trumps puppet and shadow so its almost like the orange turd is there himself.

[–] newthrowaway20 247 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So what the fuck do we need CBS for again?

[–] EleventhHour 66 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 81 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Hey, let's get Stephen to do the live fact-checking!

[–] Ghostalmedia 59 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Have two mods. Late Night Steven and Colbert Report Steven.

[–] FenrirIII 13 points 18 hours ago

Fair and Unbalanced

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[–] EleventhHour 18 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He did a live show after the Trump-Harris debate. Perhaps he’ll do another!

[–] ramenshaman 18 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yep, he's planning on doing a live show right after the VP debate. He announced it on a recent episode.

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[–] proudblond 25 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If CBS suddenly disappeared, Colbert could go anywhere he wants I bet.

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[–] NotMyOldRedditName 30 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Waltz: Vance I heard you fuck couches for fun.

Vance: NO I DON'T

Waltz: That's not proof. If you're gonna fact check me you gotta provide proof! Clearly you fucked couches!

[–] FuglyDuck 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Walz would be way more subtle than that.

hey. So glad you got off the damn couch.

And

Oh. Meant to ask you. How was the tour of Ashley Furniture? Find any attractive couches?

Edit:

didja get any good recipes from RFK?

[–] [email protected] 210 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Heaven forbid journalists do... you know, their jobs?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 16 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] FenrirIII 22 points 18 hours ago

We report what we want you to decide

[–] LEDZeppelin 55 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Fucking cowards. We saw how quickly fascists crumble when you fact check them. Why won’t CBS want to do that?

[–] FuglyDuck 21 points 15 hours ago

Because they want to help the fascist.

Something about ten dudes at a diner table with an eleventh who is a nazi.

[–] JDPoZ 32 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Fucking candy asses. Call Kyle Clark. He will show those absolute wieners how it’s done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

candy asses

Cowards. Fucking incompetent cowards.

[–] Vorticity 2 points 11 hours ago

I'm not looking forward to the day that Colorado loses Kyle but I am certainly looking forward to the day that he gets to moderate a presidential debate. Kyle is amazing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'm glad Amanda is for Democracy... But why is she (apparently) for embedding a landscape video inside her portrait video that doesn't fit on my screen, so now it's scaled down to 1/9th my TV's viewable area?

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[–] EleventhHour 86 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (11 children)

Vance isn’t Trump. He’s a wet noodle who can barely work his way through a sentence. Walz is an adorable teddy bear with claws.

It’ll be the cutest bloodbath we’ve ever seen, and we’ll all laugh about how the old guy from Minnesota made the dude wearing eyeliner get scared of giving trans school kids free lunches.

Edit: I can’t wait!

[–] [email protected] 59 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

He's ok with pushing outright lies, and it's hard to keep up with all the right wing lies that are floating around. I hope Walz just starts calling them the liars they are instead of avoiding 'name calling'.

[–] EleventhHour 44 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Vance isn’t much of a public speaker, and, up against a debate opponent like Walz (who is a great public speaker), Vance is pretty much fucked. He won’t have much of a defense but to pivot when confronted, and Walz is both clever and persistent. He’s also extremely charming, which Vance extremely isn’t, lol.

[–] proudblond 23 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

You’re making me look forward to it. Kinda. Let’s say I’m looking forward to the instant replays by the Daily Show.

[–] EleventhHour 16 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Well, it’ll probably be more policy-focused than anything with Trump, which is always just a clown show because Trump only knows how to be a clown. Vance will, at least, try to debate Walz, but it will quickly just be a timed trading of canned campaign jabs. How each plays it will be interesting to see, and - personally - I think it will be fascinating for 3 reasons:

  1. again, Vance’s relative terribleness vs Walz’s very goodness will be awesome to watch. Walz will kick Vance’s ass easily

  2. more than that, this debate will be far more substantive than the last debate, which was, basically, Kamala baiting Trump into crazy-shouting one crazy lie after another while Kamala just laughed and laughed.

  3. Tim Walz is, quite possibly, the most lovable guy to ever exist. JD Vance is, quite possibly, a new form of venerial disease.

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[–] solidgrue 96 points 21 hours ago

Weak.

C'mon, CBS. The ghost of Cronkite might have to visit you.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

So Walz will try to find the lies and Vance will claim everything is a lie since they can't stop him?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, this system makes no sense. How are they supposed to fact check each other?

"That's a lie." "Not uh."

[–] RizzRustbolt 1 points 1 hour ago

By completely ignoring any lies and speaking only to the issues.

If Walz maintains possession of the ball, then Vance can't win.

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[–] OldChicoAle 7 points 14 hours ago

Is the journalist in the room with us?

[–] Rapidcreek 52 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Hayduke 19 points 18 hours ago

Would they really have the time to fact-check the gish-gallop Vance will ejaculate on them? That's just not even feasible to get through the more egregious lies. He already said he just makes shit up. This will be the largest public face-time he will ever have (hopefully) and it all but guarantees he will shamelessly dial the horseshit up, if not just for sound bites.

And yeah, I decided to use that word.

[–] carl_dungeon 19 points 18 hours ago

Walz should just bring a fucking airhorn

[–] capt_wolf 24 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Oh sure, tell the guy who basically said "We'll make up whatever facts we need to to get our point across!" when the whole pet eating debacle was debunked that he won't be fact checked... What could go wrong!?

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