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[–] Fades 16 points 2 days ago

Trust me, we hate it here in the US just as much.

[–] ThisIsMyLemmyLogin 19 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The people who drive these things here in the UK are mental. I got smashed by one once overtaking me on a slip road because I wasn't going fast enough for him. I followed him all the way to his golf club and confronted him about it. His tank was barely scratched while my driver side door was totally fucked.

[–] Malfeasant 12 points 3 days ago

Not fair to call it a tank. A tank driver can see a child in front.

[–] Regrettable_incident 5 points 2 days ago

Yeah even the SUV would be uncomfortably wide on some UK roads, end yet they're getting really common. They're almost all driven by people who don't need a large vehicle.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

externalized obesity epidemic

Because you can't pack this much fat into one body.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (16 children)

I've used huge trucks for bush work. Like we're talking going mudding just to get to work. This line of work basically put me in the position that is the subject of commercials that try to convince suburban dads that they need a huge truck in case one day their family goes on a fictional camping trip to the middle of a swamp.

Anyways, you know what I learned? These fucking things suck at off-roading.

  • They have shit visibility. You sometimes need to get out of the truck to see around corners, especially if you're cresting steep hills
  • They have a dangerously high center of gravity (I saw a bunch of coworkers roll theirs) that is only amplified if you carry large loads in their truck beds
  • Over-complicated features like traction control will actually kill your power if you're doing some technical driving, which will make you get stuck when you don't need to

There's no good reason for these pieces of shit to exist.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not to mention they don't even fucking fit in off-road situations half the time. Unless you're in a wide open field or have giant cleared roads (in which case why do you need an ultimate off-road machineTM), most off-road situations in the eastern US are going to involve trees. Try driving around trees in that thing and you'll be stuck in a matter of minutes.

For all the actual off road work I've done, the best vehicle has always been those little utility off-road vehicles (we call them mules or gators but I'm sure they have a real name) or just a regular-sized pickup truck with 4 wheel drive and low gears.

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[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This line of work basically put me in the position that is the subject of commercials that try to convince suburban dads that they need a huge truck in case one day their family goes on a fictional camping trip to the middle of a swamp.

This is so on point.

So many defenders go, "It helped when I had to haul shit to the dump" or "I bring wood back to build my shed".

What about the other 95% of the year? Because I rent a van to move shit and I'm happy taking the bus.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

Anyways, you know what I learned? These fucking things suck at off-roading.

no shit, they're running live axle suspension, no amount of lift kit is going to get your diff case unstuck from the mud LMAO.

Doesn't help that these idiots also put small tires on big rims to get that bafflingly stupid look on them, which lowers the ride quality, and lowers the axle even more.

I'm convinced you have to be brain damaged to own a bro dozer, let alone think an f150 with live axles can get around in mud. Bro almost nothing can, a humvee might do it, but it's also literally built to do it. It's got full independent suspension, nice large tires with high sidewalls, portal axles for increased clearance. It's got a low cab, set next to the engine and transmission (that's why they're so wide) They're short, so they can get around trees and shit and likewise have a low CG.

And f150 looks like it was built to be a parody of a hummer, and it's no surprise that they drive and handle like shit as a result.

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[–] RustyNova 22 points 3 days ago

Virgin toddler squasher Vs chad adult compressor

[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As someone from Texas, these are disgusting, and people driving this garbage are not friendly towards pedestrians at all. They have no self awareness sitting inside these killing machines.

The only reason for 99.9% of people to drive this garbage is to feel big when on the road. How petty.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There is also the factor of danger and safety. People are observing more gigantic cars on the road and being in a smaller one makes them feel unsafe. So they get a bigger one when they get a new car, perpetuating the problem.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (9 children)

i will never understand the inability for people driving vehicles like this to say shit like "never buy a small vehicle, this 3 ton truck saved my life, it's basic physics"

Yeah, and if i'm rolling a freight train and someone gets in my way, i won't even notice, it's basic physics.

[–] okamiueru 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

American "I got mine" mentality at its finest. Too much lead poisoning (my leading hypothesis. You don't elect someone like Trump unless there is something seriously wrong) to realise it's a race to the bottom. When enough people do something at the expense of others, what a surprise when others also do it at the expense of you, and it all turns to shit.

It's this absurd country of "Christian" values, except not the part of caring for others, "fuck that socialism hippie shit, except for Russia, which is cool now because they meddle in our elections... Or, they meddle in favour of my team! We need to do something about the socio-economic situation! What, unions? No fuck that Marxist shit you commie!"

Etc. It's all just too dumb. Hence, lead poisoning hypothesis.

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[–] UnPassive 72 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Both my brother in laws have huge modified trucks, both live in cities, both complain that the road infrastructure and parking doesn't cater to their large vehicles... Also both have (probably) never used the truck bed.

They are so huge, tons of room in the cab. Feels like driving in a living room. Have to ride over curbs to get out of parking lots though

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I once asked a friend with a truck to help me pickup a BBQ. When attempting to load it he got so worried about us scratching the truck bed that eventually we couldn't proceed. Called another buddy with a minivan, we put a moving blanket down and off we went. No whining, just work.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

...minivans are fantastic purposeful vehicles and probably what one-quarter of SUVs should be driving; the other three-quarters should be driving cars if they hadn't been swept up in the road-tank arms race...

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Some of those curbs may also be kids, but who can tell.

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[–] olafurp 75 points 4 days ago (23 children)

I think people should need a licence to drive anything that has a tall nose. The chance of fatality is really high for those cars and people need to be taught that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Many countries do demand a commercial vehicle license for such trucks.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And the bed of that playtruck is empty and has never been used

[–] AnUnusualRelic 44 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Why not put a spare car in it?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Aside from the lift, there may be use cases for the truck where it requires moving multiple people and smaller heavy loads (or pulling a trailer). However, the sad reality is that the heaviest load it'll likely be moving on a regular basis is the fat ass of the solo passenger in their way to/from fast food and groceries

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago (14 children)

you know it's funny, they made crewcab long beds in the 80s and 90s. They were just long and looked a little goofy, had normal proportions otherwise, these have been vertically stretched and widened to compensate for the absolutely bizarre form factor that they ship in. i genuinely have no idea what they're doing with the front suspension to require the hood to be that high off of the ground. A fucking hummer has more ground clearance with a lower hood.

There is almost no reason for a truck like this to exist, especially when you consider it's interior is "luxury"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

(or pulling a trailer).

You don't need truck for this

[–] Madison420 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

And these huge trucks don't actually have that high of a load rating or that large of a bed. Your average kei truck hauls heavier loads.

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown 26 points 3 days ago (7 children)

From the US here. They have uses as work trucks but the majority of these bro-dozers are pristine and have have never hit any water deeper than a pothole in the road.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago

people keep saying that they have uses as work trucks and i'm not sure i believe them because they made smaller trucks in the 90s and 80s and those trucks were still for work?

I mean i've seen one of these things towing 5 fucking cars. I can't think of the last time i had to load up 5 cars on a shipping trailer and then ship them on my fucking daily driver. Honestly i didn't even think that was possible, but apparently it is, and i have no idea why people own these things as daily drivers now.

to be clear, my issue here is that saying they have uses is underselling the problem. You can hire a semi with a flatbed to ship a bag of sand. But that's fucking stupid.

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[–] LordWiggle 11 points 3 days ago

You've gotta compensate your penis size with your car. This is just basic science.

[–] DaddleDew 97 points 4 days ago (16 children)

He needs the large crew cab to have somewhere to put his groceries. Because he doesn't want to get that bed scratched.

[–] FireRetardant 55 points 4 days ago

I watched a guy load bags of soil from the hardware store into the back seats of the crew cab while he had an empty bed. The bed would have been easier to load and could easily be hosed down if a bag leaked. I guess he forgot it was also a truck and not just a luxury commuter car.

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[–] BangersAndMash 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I said it before and I'll say it again.

Can we not live without a complete screenshot from Reddit? Are we not better than that?

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If there's a full grown man standing in front of my truck and I can still see him, I just don't feel safe!

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[–] MisterFrog 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You know what's fucked, Standards Australia annouced they were considered increasing the minimum size for parking spots and gave only 3 weeks for public comment.

So many comments against, but I bet the car lobbies get their way anyway.

These things are a scourge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

How else are they supposed to tell the entire world they are massive dicks with micro penises?

[–] BreadOven 21 points 3 days ago

Aren't they needed for small pp?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The width of these things as well. You probably couldn't fit that in my driveway without taking the mirrors off. If you somehow managed it, you'd only be getting in and out through the sunroof.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Never been to the US, only now with this picture do I realize the size of these things. That's basically a monster truck ? are there many of them ?

[–] BestTestInTheWest 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This picture is from Australia. We don't have many, they're becoming more common but ones that are lifted like that are less common. In my area it's mainly normal rams. Which are far bigger than normal aussie cars.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (6 children)

Both of these look terrible and very stressfull to drive.

My 2021 Seat Leon hatchback fits my entire family, with luggage for a weekend, while being fun and relaxing to drive.

These monstrosities are idiotic.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

My car is probably smaller than the cabin and engine of that truck and I don’t even have a compact car

[–] Aux 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Left side: cars are getting bigger in Europe

Right side: MURICAAA!!!11

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