this post was submitted on 27 Jan 2024
234 points (98.3% liked)

politics

19120 readers
5049 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Experts say that the Christian nationalist rhetoric adds a dangerous dimension to the standoff between Texas and the Federal Government.

A trucker convoy of “patriots” is heading to the U.S. border with Mexico next week, as the standoff between Texas and the federal government intensifies. The organizers of the “Take Our Border Back” convoy have called themselves “God’s army” and say they’re on a mission to stand up against the “globalists” who they claim are conspiring to keep U.S. borders open and destroy the country.

“This is a biblical, monumental moment that’s been put together by God,” one convoy organizer said on a recent planning call. “We are besieged on all sides by dark forces of evil,” said another. “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God. It is time for the remnant to rise.” (The remnant, from the Book of Revelation, are the ones who remain faithful to Jesus Christ in times of crisis).

Experts say that the Christian nationalist overtones in this rhetoric adds a dangerous dimension to an already fraught situation.

“When people believe that they are working on behalf of God, they might be willing to resort to relatively extreme measures,” said Ruth Braunstein, assistant professor of sociology at the University of Connecticut and author of “Prophets and Patriots: Faith in Democracy Across the Political Divide.” ”And so you have a politically volatile situation that could become much more so, in part because of this rhetoric.”

all 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Are they unaware that the migrants that they'll be trying to stop are also overwhelmingly Christian?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes but they're brown, which means Jesus doesn't like them as much.

[–] FenrirIII 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus loves them very much. American Jesus is fixin' ta pop a cap in them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Side note - if you zoom in on that rifle and how he’s holding it, it’s amusingly cursed

[–] Jagger2097 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This may be part of the point

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Nah, AI has terrible gun handling skills.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 1 points 9 months ago

Better then Americans.

[–] RealFknNito 6 points 10 months ago

You know I did read that somewhere in a bible recently.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

They're Catholic, so that doesn't count

[–] stevedidWHAT 67 points 10 months ago

Classic Christianity, we love everyone but also the crusades, graves full of Indian children, probably countless Muslims, Hindus, etc. super cool logic, definitely not divine self-realization poisoned by pride, greed, etc. ironic tho!

[–] Boddhisatva 47 points 10 months ago (4 children)

So they are "God's army" but Blessed are the Peacemakers. I wonder how many will be carrying guns?

[–] grabyourmotherskeys 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Jesus was pro second amendment because he was a Christian. /s

[–] SinningStromgald 13 points 10 months ago

And hated brown people like any good Christian.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What kind of gun would Jesus use?

[–] K1nsey6 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Delonix 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

He has hands on experience

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It would probably be easier to count how many people don't have guns.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Carrying Colt M1873 Peacemakers

[–] CharlesDarwin 2 points 9 months ago

I think the question is what the average number of guns per member of gawd's awmeee is...these people are nothing without their emotional support firearms.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

White male convoy brought to you by Fox “nEwS” and puppet master Putin

[–] PenguinMage 4 points 10 months ago

Yes... but the use of "globalist" makes me think Alex Jones is involved heavily too... gods I hate all this stupidity... I shall openly mock any I may come across.

[–] BeautifulMind 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is the stupidest timeline

[–] RealFknNito 11 points 10 months ago

The last "Army of God" were slaughtered in their sleep. There's always hope history will repeat.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 24 points 10 months ago

(((globalists)))

Angry ignorant fascists with guns and a cheap Hitler knockoff. Yay.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

God I fuckin hate Christians

[–] Blank 6 points 9 months ago

So would God, if there were one.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I kinda wish this was happening in August, when Meal Team Six would walk outside, feel the 100 degree heat and/or humidity, and nope the fuck out.

Too hot for all their tacti-cool gear.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

"When people believe that they are working on behalf of God, they might be willing to resort to relatively extreme measures,”

Ask the Cathars about "armies of God"

[–] agent_flounder 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's worth reading the article to see what the supporters of this convoy have to say, following the quote above. Hopefully these lunatics stick to peaceful protesting but even that makes a tense situation worse. This dispute needs no more powder or matches right now.

Hopefully it all blows over but I fear historians may point to this as marking a notable shift in the power struggle between (red) states and the federal government. If states whose political leadership opposes federal leadership successfully gain power through extra legal means, it seems to me that introduced some big cracks into the foundation of the union.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Well, last time this happened, things got worse really fast. Still the most deadly war in US history

[–] CharlesDarwin 12 points 9 months ago

These convoys should be treated like terrorist groups.

[–] quams69 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Christofascists are not a threat I saw coming growing up in the 90s

[–] DrWorm 7 points 9 months ago

I mean, Frank Zappa saw in the 80's as a very real outcome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I'm actually more amazed that this doesn't happen more often. Christo fascist have been a real thing for a long, long time.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

True soldiers of God would fly to Israel to die in the desert.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm only following this story to see how hard it falls flat. I'm guessing between 50-100 cars total.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The amount of weaponry and jihadis 50-100 cars can carry isn't trivial.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

It'll be a far cry from the 700,000 one guy is estimating (guessing).

[–] CharlesDarwin 1 points 9 months ago

Also, I'm waiting for one of these rocket surgeons to grumble about the cost of fuel.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Could you imagine if this Jesus person was real? He'd probably be livid at the blatant misrepresentation that people like this are displaying.

[–] randon31415 4 points 10 months ago

Biden: "Let's back down from this for a second. See how Abbot's forces will handle hundreds of patriots trying to gain access to a place he just recently said he would shoot federal employees if they tried to get access to. With any luck, there will be a massacre and we will use it to justify fedralizing the national guard."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

If Biden were tonnage just federalized the national guard and sent them home already they wouldn't have time to arrive. He shouldn't let Texas get away with this