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Trump is firing hundreds of Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) employees despite recent fatal air crashes, CNN reports.

The AFL-CIO says terminations were issued Friday, with affected staff possibly locked out of FAA facilities after Monday.

Aviation safety union PASS calls the cuts “dangerous,” especially after four deadly incidents in the past month.

Critics argue these moves risk public safety amid ongoing air traffic controller shortages.

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[–] Wooki 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Insane corruption, with Musks well documented hate for the FAA. He bought an election and I'd wager a large part of it was for this reason alone.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 23 hours ago

Damn, it's all falling apart. They are creating a problem that they can then solve by privatizing it. f_ckers.

[–] ToiletFlushShowerScream 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Confirmed - American aviation is now unsafe. American trains are now unregulated and their safety compromised. I guess it is time to find pleasure in the little things in my home city again.

[–] RagingRobot 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Back to the all time American classic, the automobile. It's both what made America great and awful all in one useful machine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 15 hours ago

With Teslas autonomously crashing into everything?

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Can't even make the trains run on time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 13 hours ago

That's what the hyperloop is gonna solve, obviously

[–] [email protected] 22 points 22 hours ago

Four deadly crashes and it hasn't even been a fucking month yet.

[–] alekwithak 90 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It's worth noting that during President Obama's eight year administration, there were no fatal accidents involving major commercial airlines in the U.S. And under a month of Trump we've had how many? Lost count.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 day ago (10 children)

As an aviator with a degree in aviation I can honestly say this. It's a miracle it's taken this long for something this bad to happen. No administration, from Regan onwards, has done anything about the ATC shortage (nothing effective anyway). I'm friends with controllers, I've been to several ATC facilities, what they do everyday is a fucking miracle. While it's easy to point at the DC crash and the other subsequent crashes and say "see, Trump did it" the truth is far more nuanced and systemic than that. Also, in my opinion, the DC crash is 100% on the helicopter pilots.

Is what Trump doing now going to help the situation? Fuck no. We need more controllers. Better pay, better benefits, and more slots at the ATC academy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think ignoring a systematic issue can be put on the same level as actively enabling it. sure, previous presidents haven't helped much, which is asking for a tragedy to happen, but trump has been pretty much forcing them to happen with these cuts.

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[–] Bloomcole 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He did change the rules for trains tho allowing much longer trains. That required electronic braking systems. He didn't make that mandatory and gave the companies 14 years to install them. He allowed the companies to force their employees to work longer hours. He was certainly responsible for the Palestine disaster. (the chemical accident not thre genocide)

[–] Gammelfisch 5 points 22 hours ago

The Norfolk Southern crews nicknamed 32N as "32 Nasty." They knew a derailment was inevitable.

[–] Raiderkev 11 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Tbf, I think it was just the 1 in DC. There was a military one and a small aircraft as well, but only one involving commercial airlines to my knowledge. Still, the number is embarrassingly high.

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[–] inclementimmigrant 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Well good to know ahead of time to not fly for the next eight years.

[–] PlaidBaron 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Damn. Didnt think Trump would be the president to curb airline emissions but he just might.

[–] Lemminary 9 points 21 hours ago

The Gang Fixes the Climate Crisis

[–] chaogomu 17 points 1 day ago

It will take more than 8 years to repair the damage done so far.

[–] [email protected] 222 points 1 day ago (4 children)

This is a great time for anyone thinking of flying to the U.S. to reconsider.

America is becoming a very dangerous country to visit and travel inside.

Best to find another destination to travel in that’s safe and can ensure you remain safe. American cannot.

[–] themeatbridge 125 points 1 day ago (6 children)

What's wild is how quickly a motivated fascist has been able to dismantle the government..

[–] [email protected] 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

That's usually how it goes. It comes tumbling down very quickly. Hitler dismantled democracy in 53 days. We're 4 weeks--28 days--into ~~Musk's~~ Trump's presidency.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago

You had it right the first time, crossed out the wrong name.

[–] Bytemeister 14 points 1 day ago

Trump is President, but Musky is the Chancellor.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Breaking shit is easy (and fast and cheap). A dumb bull in a China shop can cause a lot of damage in seconds without even trying.

Building or repairing things takes skill and a lot of time and money.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Part of the reason Pres. Biden’s term seemed so useless to those not paying attention. A lot of it was spent fixing all the damage Orange Combover 1.0 did. Entire departments had data and knowledge loss and had to be rebuilt.

[–] CharlesDarwin 11 points 1 day ago

Yep. A whole lot of dipshits were saying Bronzo the Clown and Biden were more or less the same because they were both older white men. Also: Gaza.

And now it seems all of us have to deal with that incredibly stupid take.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It’s been in the making for 30 years, this is just the endgame. Fox News started in 1996.

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[–] _wizard 43 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Nope. Took Hitler 53 days. Let's circle back on that statement in a few weeks and see if the government is still here or not.

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[–] Gammelfisch 12 points 22 hours ago

Basically, it would be safer to fly over Ukraine and fucking Russia. An over worked and stressed ATC is higher risk than a bunch of drunk Russian bastards manning a SAM battery.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

And yet another plane incident today...

[–] cowfodder 89 points 1 day ago (9 children)
[–] Red_October 38 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And it's only been a month.

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[–] Bloomcole 8 points 22 hours ago

LOL US planes are even crashing in Canada now. I think the invasion attack just started. Defend yourself!

[–] Sam_Bass 5 points 21 hours ago

No room in his senile agenda for any variables

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How to artificially impose a curfew by making people too afraid to fly. Is this what happens when you get King Musk mad about getting his flights publicly tracked? Gonna bet so, the guy is bitter and corrupt enough the he would want to replace the entire aviation system with one that won't track him regardless of how many deaths it would mean.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Time to stop putting our faith in flying.

I already decided I'm never going on another dangerous amusement park ride because I don't trust the businesses to maintain them properly.

Gonna be living like native americans before long!

[–] andros_rex 3 points 20 hours ago

Fry bread is the perfect “I am desperately inhumanly broke” food. You can get a lot of calories out of a bottle of oil/tub of lard and a bag of flour.

Beadwork lets you make something gorgeous out of stuff you can get at the dollar tree.

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[–] Carrolade 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Interesting to be cutting oversight during a time when Boeing was having so much trouble with its planes.

[–] baronvonj 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I mean did you see what oversight did to share prices?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They tested the drones (NJ, UK)... They promoted flight crashes to ease into projecting a new fear... Now they will replace ATC with AI and utilize their drones on a mass scale.

For surveillance?

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