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President Donald Trump is set to sign three executive orders on Monday involving the U.S. military, including banning transgender service members, eliminating military DEI programs, and reinstating service members discharged for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine.

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[–] AbidanYre 126 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

reinstating service members discharged for refusing the COVID-19 vaccine.

So, some idiots who won't follow orders, are now ~4 years behind where they should be in rank, not to mention the not drilling etc since they got booted, and are an extra health risk to the unit.

Yeah, this should do wonders for readiness.

But it said they'll be getting backpay, so I guess Harley, Corvette, and Mustang sales should go up.

[–] glimse 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess Harley, Corvette, and Mustang sales should go up.

Goddamn that is savage but so true

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Does Lemmy have a r/justbootthings equivalent?

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 14 points 2 days ago

Lol, refusal to do their job vs people who actually want to be there.

Fire the latter, keep the former - who also happen to be q-anons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I think they go for Chargers and Jeeps these days.

[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 days ago

Price of those eggs is gonna drop any second now

[–] CharlesDarwin 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh, THIS is the plan to give us cheaper eggs. Okay.

[–] Lemminary 8 points 2 days ago

Transgender service members are proficient egg poachers, don't you know?

[–] thisorthatorwhatever 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Someone not brave enough to take a COVID-19 shot, is the type of coward that will run away in a battle. This significantly weakens America.

[–] kescusay 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the point. These actions make perfect sense... if the felon works for Putin.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Here is some lemmy gold for being correct!

[–] kescusay 0 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I mean I strongly support not dying in battle. For hundreds of years infantry has just been cannon fodder anyway

[–] TseseJuer -4 points 2 days ago

this is a braindead take

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"We believe in hiring people solely on merit, not because of who they are. Therefore, we're going to employ only these people based on who they are, regardless of any merit."

[–] chuckleslord 15 points 2 days ago

DEI is a placeholder for the n word to them. Once you realize that, it all fits together

[–] foggy 47 points 2 days ago

So we're shrinking our military? Not very America First of us.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Have they ever offered any cooked-up rationale for this? Or does everyone understand and admit that this comes from nothing but irrational hatred?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

The only rationale I've seen consistently is that it's expensive to care for trans people.

I was in and diagnosed with gender dysphoria within about a week of Trump's initial tweet saying he was banning trans people. For about 2 months there it was a bit up in the air whether or not I'd get discharged or not. Ultimately was grandfathered in.

It's not an issue of hormones being available in the field, you can be deployed with a years supply no problem. That said the way the policy worked is you can't start HRT while deployed. (Presumably because of the increased burden of regular blood draws earlier on) If you were seeking to transition you needed the approval of your commanding officer, and that could be denied only if you were deployable and hadn't deployed yet.

There was also the option in there for your CO to basically grant you a year to go to college or something while transitioning to generally make integration smoother, so you wouldn't be stuck dealing with second puberty and regular military service at the same time. Though I have no idea if anyone actually got that. I know at least on person who didn't, or didn't take it anyway.

There's a bunch more nuance, rules, and tricky ways people got fucked over by their commands myself included. But at the end of the day, it really caused basically no problems overall while it was an option. And frankly if you can drag a CPAP machine on deployment trans people are less of a logistical nightmare and shouldn't make the top 10 of medical issues that actually might warrant discharge.

[–] meco03211 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The rationale I was told was for battlefield risks. If they are on hormone treatments, there's a risk if they are unable to obtain those while deployed somewhere. Also similar to how the military handles diabetics.

No idea how reasonable or accurate that is. I'm not a doctor.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago

"But what if they get their periods in battle?"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago

So anti-vax soldiers with long-COVID are less of a risk!?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Transgenders are different: under no circumstances can we put America's transgenders in danger. They are far too precious to risk in combat. Like for the sake of homosexuals 16 years ago, it has been the solemn oath of every man in uniform to lay down his life in defense of America's precious, precious transgenders.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's gonna take a century or a civil war (or both) to recover from all this shit.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 2 days ago

I misread that as "a century of civil war," and I was like, I sure as fuck hope not!

[–] nifty 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The anti-trans angle doesn’t make sense, especially when all these people want to do is serve

[–] Sterile_Technique 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's the same shit the Nazis did to Germany - divide the population into a bunch of bite-sized subsets, and tackle them individually while the rest of the country doesn't intervene because they're not a member of the out-group in question. Repeat until they have absolute power.

They don't actually give a shit about trans people; that's just a stepping stone.

So, whether or not the trans community is a part of your life in any way, it's time to resist like your life depends on it... cuz your life might actually depend on it.

[–] nifty 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trying to tell if someone is a patriot based on their race or sexual / gender orientation is fucked. There are and have been many straight, cis, white traitors of the U.S. government. It’s just insane and unreasonable to expect that just because someone is white or cis or male then they’re safe or want the best for their country. Truly magical thinking devoid from reality and facts.

[–] thesohoriots 17 points 2 days ago

Military finding out how important that DEI was will be a fun time. And then again when they decide not to reenlist and find that little “protected status” box is no longer on job applications.

[–] ContinueToServe 11 points 2 days ago

This is a clip from a panel discussion we organized, focused on what military service members can expect under a Trump presidency, specifically addressing what trans personal can expect:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgV33WPQOqA&t=40s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

How pro trans of him to not let trans people risk there lives. Just let all those straight conservative people that don't follow orders die instead.

/s but it should be spun this was to make him feel uncomfortable.

[–] dance_ninja 1 points 2 days ago

Original article by Newsweek