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Fauci is the latest in a string of former Trump aides-turned-critics to see their federal protection canceled despite ongoing threats to their lives.

Speaking to reporters in North Carolina on Friday, Trump said he wouldn’t feel any responsibility if harm befell the former government officials. A person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security issues, said that Fauci’s federal security detail was ended on Thursday and that he has since hired private security.

When asked about Fauci and former national security adviser John Bolton, Trump said, “They all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too.”

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[–] btaf45 27 points 1 day ago

[Trump said he wouldn’t feel any responsibility if harm befell the former government officials. ]

I am not going to feel any responsibility or concern if harm befells Traitorapist Trump.

[–] [email protected] 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

He was the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) from 1984 to 2022... and now he is described as "former Trump aide". What a sad destruction of a legacy.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those 4 years don't erase the long service. I'm glad we had fauci during those 4 years instead of a Trump toadie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Part of me wishes faucci hadn't been there, his legacy wouldn't have been tarnished and a lot more trumpies would have seen the results of following Trump: death. Not that I want them dead, but if that's what they want, I wont stop them. Ow everyone will have to suffer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago

No matter what would have happened, he would have blamed someone else and his followers would have listened without any question. He can shoot someone on the 5th avenue and claims it's because of immigrants, his base will repeat "immigrants, immigrants" like a mantra.

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[–] Gammelfisch 67 points 1 day ago

If a nutter MAGAt harmed Fauci, Mango Mussolini would pardon the bastard. That is sick.

[–] inclementimmigrant 20 points 1 day ago

Republicans prove time and time again they are just shit people but the American people are just too stupid and are worse than goldfish when it comes to remembering the lesson.

[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 day ago (10 children)

The smart move here would be for the EU/UK to set up an easy method for all the clever, motivated people alienated by the orange hitter’s actions to jump ship

[–] sneekee_snek_17 48 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm waiting for the inevitable immigration programs that countries are gonna roll out to make it easier/more attractive for educated Americans

Yes, this is "my" country, but fixing the gaping wound it's got now won't solve all the other more insidious issues

[–] FlyingSquid 32 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I am hoping some countries offer asylum for queer people whether or not they are educated.

[–] kescusay 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

That would be fantastic. I've been thinking a lot about early 1930's Germany lately, and the Jewish people who saw the writing on the wall there. The people who survived the Holocaust were mostly the ones who got out before it started.

I have queer kids. I'm currently working on moving my family to Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or Canada...

But what it reminds me of is Haiti, so many Haitians go study abroad and never come back (not permanently anyway)... The same thing will end up happening in the USA if things keep going the way they are, tons of people with higher education will leave and only those in agreement with the government will stay, making things even worse and the general population will be stuck...

Pro tip if you don't have special qualifications to help you get out, Australia has long lasting visas if you do work in the agricultural sector, if you add time as a tourist you can stay up to 2.5 years.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fauci would be an asset for Canada. Please! Immigrate! Get us doctors! Prepare us for whatever flu the US might be cooking up next!

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[–] GraniteM 8 points 1 day ago

They could call it Operation Caperplip!

[–] makyo 19 points 1 day ago

Germany eased up on naturalizations laws in the last year actually, not sure about other countries in the EU but I'm sure they're at least making plans. There's a skilled labor shortage everywhere and they'd love to swipe some Americans.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It's hard to get the same rate of pay outside the US. If I moved to the UK, AND got promoted from Snr Mgr to Director I'd take a 30% pay cut on average, not to mention what I'd lose on selling my house early, transferring 401k, current liquid assets, car, moving costs for me and family as well as the emotional, social and opportunity cost of moving my wife who'd also have to secure her own package or else be out of work.

Then there's the Visa cost.

You're probably looking at $20-30k USD costs not including opportunity cost and salary decrease.

[–] redisdead 14 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't take a 30% pay raise to move to the USA.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)
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[–] perviouslyiner 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Operation paperclip

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[–] FlyingSquid 173 points 1 day ago (2 children)

“You can’t have a security detail for the rest of your life because you worked for government,” Trump said.

He literally has that just by being president.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

Trump knows exactly what he's doing. He is waiting on his rabid fan base to kill Fauci.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago

"Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect."

Wilhoit's Law. It's as true in the US now as it was in Italy a century ago, then Spain and Germany in the following years. Not ominous at all! 😬🤬

[–] errer 14 points 1 day ago

Won’t someone rid me of this meddlesome priest?

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown 13 points 1 day ago

We already knew he feels no responsibility. You can't expect a narcissist to be anything other than a horrible person. Its all they can be.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Trump kept Fauci in place for the entire crisis. If Fauci was bad at his job, doesn't that mean Trump failed the country?

[–] TrickDacy 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I will never understand how trump killed thousands of people minimum through inaction and got away with it Scot free. Wasn't even mentioned leading up to the election. Not in debates, articles, anywhere that I saw. The man is worse than any serial killer and never even gets a finger wag about it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From March 1, 2020, through the end of 2020, there were 522,368 excess deaths in the United States, or 22.9% more deaths than would have been expected in that time period.

[–] hypna 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's roughly the total COVID death toll for that period. The term "excess deaths" is used to refer to the deaths which occurred above the typical yearly mortality rate. In other words, the deaths which are roughly attributable to COVID.

I don't know if that's what you meant, but it would be easy to read your comment, given the context, as saying that Trump caused 522,368 deaths in 2020.

If you want to quantify the deaths caused by Trump's mismanagement, you'd need to compare COVID deaths relative to population. I actually managed to find that (to my surprise)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

If you sort by deaths per million (total), the US is 16th from the bottom right above Brazil, Slovenia, and Lithuania. And right below Latvia, Chile, and Poland.

You could also download that data set there, find the global average, sum up the difference between that and the US, and roughly say that number is the death toll for Trump's mismanagement.

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[–] notsoshaihulud 19 points 1 day ago

What's infuriating, and when I realized how homicidally bad trump is was February 2020, when there was all those rapidly published data trump had access to weeks prior to publication, and he kept on calling it the "flu". Yet wingnuts had to go over tens of thousands of Fauci emails to attack him. Yet nobody's criticized trump's publicly recorded lying that caused tens of thousands of preventable deaths.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're taking your thinking too far about things that happened a long time ago! Trump voters don't remember shit and a lot of them probably don't understand what they remember.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"once we get control of all branches of government. kill him on my orders"

[–] Catma 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He could just walk up and shoot him in the head and say it was for national security. SC said thats totally cool when the president does it. Fuck he could probably make it a PPV event

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 6 points 1 day ago

He could order it and if one of his supporters kills him, trump pardons him, and trump suffers no consequences for ordering a hit

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] Pontiacbandit 22 points 1 day ago

Its funny how the guy who never pays his bills holds a sermon for others.

[–] FelixCress 67 points 1 day ago (8 children)

It is almost like he said he expects his SA to attack him now, for fuck sake.

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[–] dhork 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not only that, but if one of the Jan 6 crew attacks him, I fully expect Trump to pardon that person. Trump is essentially declaring hunting season open, and Republicans will let him, because he's grabbed the party by the pussy.

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[–] notsoshaihulud 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If anything happened to Fauci, they'd see a massive exodus from HHS and it would start a movement those gerontocrats needing doctors would not appreciate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They all have money, they will feel no repercussions. They can buy the best Healthcare available, taking it away from others without a second thought.

[–] notsoshaihulud 8 points 1 day ago

It depends. Congress critters getting priority access to NIH/Walter Reed level care is one of those perks of being a politician. Of course, they can pay a lot for boutique medicine but I'd say, boutique medicine usually doesn't provide the best care. And if they'd got to non-fed academic institutions, they'd get an earful about this fuckery.

So believe it or not, it would impact people in congress quite directly.

[–] Rhoeri 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If the act of hypocrisy could walk and talk, it’d probably throat-punch trump in the dick and call him a hypocrite.

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