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Fauci is the latest in a string of former Trump aides-turned-critics to see their federal protection canceled despite ongoing threats to their lives.

Speaking to reporters in North Carolina on Friday, Trump said he wouldn’t feel any responsibility if harm befell the former government officials. A person familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive security issues, said that Fauci’s federal security detail was ended on Thursday and that he has since hired private security.

When asked about Fauci and former national security adviser John Bolton, Trump said, “They all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security, too.”

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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Trump kept Fauci in place for the entire crisis. If Fauci was bad at his job, doesn't that mean Trump failed the country?

[–] TrickDacy 60 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I will never understand how trump killed thousands of people minimum through inaction and got away with it Scot free. Wasn't even mentioned leading up to the election. Not in debates, articles, anywhere that I saw. The man is worse than any serial killer and never even gets a finger wag about it anymore.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From March 1, 2020, through the end of 2020, there were 522,368 excess deaths in the United States, or 22.9% more deaths than would have been expected in that time period.

[–] hypna 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's roughly the total COVID death toll for that period. The term "excess deaths" is used to refer to the deaths which occurred above the typical yearly mortality rate. In other words, the deaths which are roughly attributable to COVID.

I don't know if that's what you meant, but it would be easy to read your comment, given the context, as saying that Trump caused 522,368 deaths in 2020.

If you want to quantify the deaths caused by Trump's mismanagement, you'd need to compare COVID deaths relative to population. I actually managed to find that (to my surprise)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/

If you sort by deaths per million (total), the US is 16th from the bottom right above Brazil, Slovenia, and Lithuania. And right below Latvia, Chile, and Poland.

You could also download that data set there, find the global average, sum up the difference between that and the US, and roughly say that number is the death toll for Trump's mismanagement.

[–] notsoshaihulud 4 points 1 day ago

The US population is unhealthy and there is a strong relationship between covid mortality and obesity. So some of the susceptibility cannot be blamed on a single sitting president. That said, his lying in February and March cost a lot of lives up front and that's where he could have made the strongest impact by showing leadership and preparedness (like getting masks so HCW wouldn't have to wear the same N95 for a month). He used an Obama-era system to boost the development of the vaccine (moderna at least). And then he bitched about lockdowns, which should have been managed dynamically based on the local healthcare system resources/capacity. But the most telling thing was, the moment he LOST the election, he abandoned the vaccine deployment efforts, so Americans lost 2 months in the rollout.

[–] notsoshaihulud 19 points 1 day ago

What's infuriating, and when I realized how homicidally bad trump is was February 2020, when there was all those rapidly published data trump had access to weeks prior to publication, and he kept on calling it the "flu". Yet wingnuts had to go over tens of thousands of Fauci emails to attack him. Yet nobody's criticized trump's publicly recorded lying that caused tens of thousands of preventable deaths.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're taking your thinking too far about things that happened a long time ago! Trump voters don't remember shit and a lot of them probably don't understand what they remember.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

People have come to realize that leaded gasoline caused mental problems in the 1970s. My current theory is that a combination of micro plastics and post-Covid dementia is at fault.

Only slightly /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

No, it was actually the deep state who kept him in office!!!!!