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[–] CitizenKong 10 points 1 day ago

Another fun fact, billionaires and their lifestyles emmit more carbon pollution in 90 minutes than the average person in their lifetimes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

So what you are saying is we have plenty supply of school children and not enough billionaires? Let's see how we can get more billionaires then. Or do you want to reduce the number of school children? Because that is being worked on constantly...America, you have the freedom to get killed by someone with mental issues anytime.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Starting a psyop on 4chan for making edgy school shooter wannabes start aiming at billionaires instead.

"You see anon, it's not that girls don't like you or that your class has 1 non-white person in cornbread America, it's that billionaires are leeches in society, and the cops they own would stop you. Don't fire at classmates, fire at the upper class."

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For good measure point out that people migrating into the country are often because the 1% are offering them otherwise high paying jobs at below minimum wage, but thanks to the exchange rate that's like a million dollars an hour back in their home country.

Don't make it obvious that you're on the Left or they'll ignore you on principle. Make it sound like you're "one of them"

[–] mynameisigglepiggle 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ZILtoid1991 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I tried to teach socialism for terminally 4chan people, it's hard, and can be immediately undone by /pol/, some other nazi shit, etc.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 7 points 2 days ago

I did it once, in person, and all it took was food every day for a few months. We all shared our food at lunch instead of keeping it to ourselves, and we all went away more full than we had before. (the reason is that we all got a larger variety of flavors than before, but that's not the point. The point is communism) Never out had to talk about leftism or politics either, people just sort of came around via eating.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Only if the wealth is redistributed to the masses though.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yeah exactly. Normal inheritance means their kids or spouse inherit, and the number of billionaires remains the same.

[–] donescobar 88 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Fun fact, if I were to inherit the wealth of a billionaire family member who was shot in public I’d get philanthropic real fast!

[–] RQG 44 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Many people say this. However of those who talk the talk, barely any ever walk the walk.

However I think if you are born an heir to a billionaire, you'd lack the perspective which might foster selfless philanthropy.

I'd like to think that if someone from the working class would randomly get such money they would. But it still seems unlikely.

[–] glitchdx 34 points 3 days ago (1 children)

self preservation isn't a selfless motive, but if it results in philanthropy then that's a win.

[–] SmackemWittadic 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly! If billionaires were put in a a position where they need to stop being billionaires and distribute their wealth or else people will kill them, they'd distribute their wealth real fucking fast

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago

but if not, and they have two or more children ic tje amount gets split between them. Then you handlo those, and their children etc. It's financial homeopathy

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I love how Luigi has become a defacto symbol of the revolution. I can't imagine Nintendo being happy about it.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA 9 points 2 days ago

Seriously. Their boardroom must be up in arms about it not being Mario.

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[–] LovableSidekick 43 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

My OCD wonders if they factored in having to assassinate the heirs of the CEOs who immediately become billionaires, recursively until every fortune has been divvied up so many ways nobody has a billion anymore. Cuz that would be necessary if you really want to "run out" of billionaires, and would also mean you advocate executing children for inheriting a lot of money. This does require thinking beyond the simple meme, but go ahead - you can do it!

[–] varjen 19 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unlike royalty the transfer of wealth isn't instant so if you work fast enough you can achieve a brief window when there are no billionaires.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wealthy people likely have a living trust and the next trustee picks up immediately without needing time-consuming procedures like probate.

[–] ZoopZeZoop 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People might be reluctant to assume possession of billions if people were murdering/ systematically killing billionaires. So, it might be achieved relatively quickly.

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[–] LovableSidekick 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I get the impression a brief window isn't the goal, but in this thread rationalization might be.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I wonder what that particular scenario's Gini coëfficient versus Cumulative Assassinations plot looks like. Sounds like the plot for a new season of Death Note.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven't actually done the math, but by percentages I think they are probably fairly close.

[–] MidsizedSedan 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Its not hard to look up school shooting fatalities, but it would be depressing

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In total, you'd only need four numbers:

  • The total number of school aged children
  • The number of school aged children who died due to violent crime
  • The total number of billionaires
  • The total number of billionaires who died due to violent crime
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[–] MidsizedSedan 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Welp that sucked.

69 deaths in 2024 (323 school shootings in 1 year. More school shootings than school days. What are you doing there?)*

And

400+ billionaires the poorest is 3.3B

So 2024 had 1 Billionare death, at this rate, we need 399 more years...

*I forgot to add. Both this source and me are not american. Feel free to correct me with a more local source

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

More numbers for people to play with. "Since 1999, 440 people have been killed and 1,243 injured in shooting events at K-12 schools."

https://www.security.org/blog/a-timeline-of-school-shootings-since-columbine/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If I'm reading the hypothetical right, it's saying what if in a year, the numbers were reversed... 323 $hootings with 69 deaths, versus 1 school shooting with 1 death.

Would gun laws change, would tax laws change? Etc etc. Would minimum wage change?

Purely hypothetical of course

[–] Allonzee 38 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

Also, only about 28,000 hundred-million-plus-inaires on Earth.

For perspective, significantly more Palestinians have already been casually genocided by our bestie trade partner in that current conflict.

The blight upon our civilization of billions is not that large.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/10/number-of-people-with-100-million-has-doubled-since-2003.html

I'm not even suggesting they be adjusted, because I'm not a sociopath like they are. Use an economic guillotine, confiscate their exploitation gotten hoards for the commons(yes nationalize essential industries like utilities and Healthcare so they're owned by society), reshape the economy to stop rewarding speculative gambling with exploitation gotten chips over honest labor and vocations like teachers that keep civilization running, obviously institute a maximum wealth cap as other people live in this society going forward to prevent recurrance, bring their ego scores to zero for their murderous greed, let them keep $20 and give each of them a set of literal, cheap bootstraps, and let them get a real job.

Bar them from forming any kind of corporate entities or investing in anything other than a standard savings account for life, just as people convicted of computer crimes are sometimes barred from operating computers as they've proven they're a danger to others with them.

I'd be shocked if half of them didn't take themselves out of the equation suddenly being subject to the same reality as their current livestock.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] GeneralEmergency 32 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That would involve people actually doing something rather than waiting for someone else.

And even then you guys would fall into conspiracy theories because you can't believe someone actually did something.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's a prisoner's dilemma. Of fucking course we should revolt and save the world. Organizing that is not easy, especially when it makes you a target.

[–] Benjaben 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

And this is the heart of our predicament - the ones in control understand this. If they keep our misery at a low simmer they get to extract everything from us, slowly, we won't revolt. I worry that our only hope may be that they miscalculate and the pot boils over. I really don't want that, but I'm having a harder and harder time imagining real improvements anymore.

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[–] ZILtoid1991 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

One small problem:

Billionaires are not closed in together in a poorly secured room, thus you will need a lot more effort to just shoot down one of them.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

The 55th World Economic Forum will happen in a few weeks, but the security will probably be, like, almost twice as tight as the average school.

/s

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So many heirs tho...

What do we do if their heirs just inherit it?

Anakin Skywalker time? 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

They'd get generous quickly if we kept the guillotines lubricated

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If we're waving magic wands around, change the tax laws to limit how much you can inherit.

Changing the step up basis thing is actually pretty low hanging fruit.

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stepupinbasis.asp

https://smartasset.com/investing/buy-borrow-die-how-the-rich-avoid-taxes

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[–] Ceedoestrees 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

We'd have have to use drugs or something first to get them to sign over their wealth. Probably film it, make sure no one thinks it was under duress. The whole process could take months to make sure it looks legit. CIA level brainwashing maybe? I donno, just spitballing. Then just make sure they can't backtrack on everything by finishing the job.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not necessary. After the first round of billionaires has been dispatched, their nepo babies will see the writing on the wall and sign it over quite willingly without any kind of coercion.

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[–] confusedbytheBasics 13 points 3 days ago (5 children)

There are 1050 estimated billionaires in the US. In 2024 we've had 38 school shooting related deaths.

So a bit more than 2 months...

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

29 years, assuming we maintain 2024 school shooting levels. I propose that we just skip the schoolchildren shootings altogether, and just skip straight to French Revolution rates of aristocrat deaths. They unalived over 14,000 aristocrats over just a two year period.

Given demographics in the US today, those are rookie numbers. I think we could really show history how it ought to be done and bump that up to some really fast math.

The real unfortunate downside though was that 70% of the casualties during the reign of terror was worker/peasant class. Getting at those rich people meant they had to go through 700,000 human shields that the wealthy put in front of themselves. I figure our current wealthy elite wouldn't be reached until a far higher number of Americans perished.

There's a lot of fucking bootlicker assholes out there still.

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