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The fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has drawn attention due to the phrase “deny, defend, depose” reportedly written on the shooter’s ammunition, echoing criticism of insurer practices like “delay, deny, defend.”

UnitedHealthcare, one of the largest U.S. health insurers, has faced scrutiny over claim denials and delays, including a Senate report highlighting issues with Medicare Advantage prior authorizations.

The killing has sparked public outrage and dark humor on social media, reflecting widespread frustration with health insurers, which many blame for rising healthcare costs and access barriers.

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[–] kemsat 129 points 5 days ago (2 children)

“Sparked public outrage” Where? The CEO’s of America headquarters? I’ve literally only seen elation & humorous remarks.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think it's been public outrage about health insurers tbh

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[–] samus12345 15 points 5 days ago

"If there is any person in the town, who feels emotion caused by this man's death," said Scrooge quite agonised, "show that person to me, Spirit, I beseech you."

[–] [email protected] 157 points 6 days ago (10 children)

It's literally the title of the book about their shitty tactics

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[–] MehBlah 125 points 5 days ago (16 children)

Somebody lost someone and they correctly identified the person most guilty. That is what these people and their undeserved money fear. They fear when the riots start the people don't trash their neighborhood for once but seek out those to blame and trash them. That is when you will see gun control become a priority.

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[–] Josey_Wales 135 points 6 days ago (7 children)

“Sparked public outrage”

Only reference in article is a link to another story discussing outrage on social media in general. AP is pushing a capitalist agenda.

I personally haven’t seen any outrage. Just that dark humor.

[–] hOrni 51 points 6 days ago

The outrage was already sparked. That's why he got shot.

[–] dvlsg 20 points 5 days ago

I've seen plenty of outrage.

It's just all targeted at the insurance companies.

[–] TheTechnician27 18 points 5 days ago

I think you're misreading this sentence: I think it's clearly implying public outrage surrounding US health insurance, not about the killing itself. "The killing has sparked public outrage and dark humor on social media" pretty clearly implies to me that they mean the public outrage associated with the dark humor.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] meco03211 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Haha. Yes. We all make funny jokes! We're just joking right guys?

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[–] Feathercrown 95 points 5 days ago (4 children)

The killing has sparked public outrage

I legitimately haven't seen a single person upset other than someone posting a screenshot of Tim Walz doing the typical tweet of condolences

[–] prof_wafflez 21 points 5 days ago

The average citizen is cheering every location I’ve looked.

[–] Kbobabob 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm outraged.... The way that healthcare companies decide who gets to live and who needs to die for profit.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Weirdly, I've seen a few .ml usernames complaining about how killing people is always evil, and that we're evil for glorifying it

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[–] candybrie 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

You got to read more of the sentence:

The killing has sparked public outrage and dark humor on social media, reflecting widespread frustration with health insurers

The outrage isn't about the killing. The outrage is about the health insurers. The killing is just the spark that got us all to talk about it.

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

the phrase “deny, defend, depose” reportedly written on the shooter’s ammunition

This is likely in reference to a book that is highly critical of the medical insurance field called “Delay, Deny Defend”. Except here, the shooter actually did depose the CEO for his company’s actions.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The killing has sparked public outrage

Huh... Must be on some social media for CEOs by CEOs or something because I haven't seen any outrage. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 days ago

Reading the article, it's either a poor choice of words on the part of the AP journalist, or a deliberate choice of words to muddy the situation when this inevitably gets compressed into a short reference memory as the news cycle moves on.

What's described is very much the outrage expressed against insurance practices re: medical care, part of the celebration of this guy's death.

[–] dual_sport_dork 65 points 6 days ago (4 children)

"But guys, he could have had some other motive! We just dOn'T kNoW!!!!1!one!!!"

So, about that.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We don't know what words were written on all the ammo he didn't fire, so maybe it was sheer coincidence.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Just reach into the old grab-bag of engraved bullets I keep for just the occasion.

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[–] Stovetop 37 points 6 days ago

Yep, I was previously in the "probably someone wronged by United but can't be 100% sure" camp, but now there's no way it could be interpreted as anything else. Someone sought justice and got it.

[–] meeeeetch 13 points 6 days ago

If he was shtupping your wife, what better way to direct suspicion away from you than to play into the angle that would give every American not on the Forbes list a motive?

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[–] Iheartcheese 62 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I hope they never catch him.

[–] seaQueue 35 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It sure would be a shame if the 99% of New York state saw and heard nothing of interest about this guy.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

What guy? The CEO was carrying the gun and tripped, shooting himself in the back. We all saw the video.

[–] uberdroog 22 points 6 days ago

I mean if Jan 6 was peaceful... yeah... we all saw it he tripped

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[–] uberdroog 29 points 6 days ago

From what I am seeing on a few platforms, there may not be much help from the public.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Honestly the best calling card I've seen in a while. I can see this being a motto among the resistance.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 days ago (5 children)

If they catch this guy he will never see trial. No way they’d risk him getting up on the stand, and even less likely they’d want to try their luck getting twelve people to convict. He’ll go down in a hail of gunfire or get Epstein’d

[–] kuato 19 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No way they’d risk him getting up on the stand

Defendants don’t get up on the stand if they want any chance of a not guilt verdict.

and even less likely they’d want to try their luck getting twelve people to convict.

It’s not so unlikely. It ought to be, but it isn’t.

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[–] RangerJosie 39 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All I've seen is celebration and laughter.

There's been no outrage. Maybe from a few bootlickers. But nobody who's opinion you should respect.

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[–] sumguyonline 25 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The pigs hunting this soldier need to take note. There's a lot of angry, sick, and wronged people in the world, that these rich fucks are doing the evils to. We execute a CEO in broad daylight and within days another insurer planned to limit anesthesia. The board of directors will be getting executed next, the pigs need to get their heads out of their asses and realize who's side their on. They are currently standing where the enemy of the people stands. It's a dangerous place, and we are hungry.

[–] ThePantser 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

They backed down on the anesthesia thing. They got scared.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Give them a month. They will put it back.

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[–] modus 20 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Interestingly, NYT doesn't mention the word "depose" in any of their articles on the matter.

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[–] Sludgehammer 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has drawn attention due to the phrase “deny, defend, depose” reportedly written on the shooter’s ammunition, echoing criticism of insurer practices like “delay, deny, defend.”

I'm guessing he didn't consider the LIFO nature of a clip when loading, and "depose" is his answer to "delay, deny, defend". So he put depose, defend, and deny into the CEO in that order

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think you're right. I'm sure it was loaded with delay, deny, defend, depose.

[–] Sludgehammer 12 points 5 days ago

Kinda ironic he didn't have time to shoot "delay" when you think about it.

[–] RizzRustbolt 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Was he using an Aperture Science designed gun, or did AP just use a stock photo for the article?

[–] chiliedogg 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

He was using a suppressor that looks like it wasn't installed correctly and the gun jammed multiple times. Clearing those jams resulted in several unfired rounds being ejected onto the ground.

Just screwing a can onto a threaded barrel on a tilt-barrel automatic can keep the gun from cycling properly. You often need to have a special adapter between the barrel and the supressor for it to operate.

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