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Mine is they shouldn't have made the sequel series without George as a consultant.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Star Wars universe is not interesting enough for all the TV show and movies being made. George Lucas is not Tolkien and the world building was fine enough for the original trilogy, but it’s simply too boring for more content. Tolkiens work gets more interesting as you learn more about the details. Star Wars is the opposite. The more information you get the less interesting it is.

Also the Jedis are just cops/soldiers. They are not inherently good.

[–] krashmo 7 points 1 day ago

I would say the 60 year period that all the movies occupy are not interesting enough for more content. Similarly to LOTR there are plenty of other time periods in which good content could be made but that makes it harder for Disney to cash in on familiar characters so they don't pursue those options.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I find Jedi boring and have always been way more interested in the space fleet battles/logistics/tactics. As a kid I would watch RotJ and fast forward through the ground/throne room scenes just to watch the space battles. I still know exactly where all the scene cuts are.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are no hot takes. Everything has been analyzed and discussed a thousand times. Everyone has their own opinion, but none of them are hot anymore.

[–] NineMileTower 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My hot take is that Darth Vader is actually Luke Skywalker's father Anakin Skywalker. I don't think that Vader killed Anakin. I think that Vader IS Anakin.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

You seem insightful about that character so I wanna get your take on this too: do you think the guy playing the role of Vader didn't speak his own lines? Like that's some kind of clue about who he really? idk, maybe I was just high when I saw the movie, but something seemed off

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[–] spankmonkey 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

A New Hope would have only been moderately successful at best without the combination of David Prowse doing the physical work and James Earl Jones voicing Vader. Possibly a flop.

Yes, the rest of the cast was solid and it would have still been a good B movie without them, but the voice and physical presence of Vader set the tone of what the protagonists were fighting against. Vader isn't the best character either! In fact he is a one note villain in A New Hope.

The combination of both actors was the secret sauce that set the foundation for the entire series. Heck, Vader overshadowed Palpatine in their scenes together for me, even with Ian McDiarmid's excellent performance.

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[–] RonnieB 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] NineMileTower 9 points 1 day ago

That's not a hot take. Millions will agree with you. Especially Star Wars fans.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

I agree it's now boring and sucks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Andor is the best thing to come out of the Star Wars franchise and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I will always love Andor forever simply because they took aim at the unironic Empire stans and shot them in the rhetorical head.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (5 children)

For someone who wanted to make Star Wars as "inclusive" as possible, Kathleen Kennedy neglected so many opportunities. For starters, we only ever saw one Star Wars character with any disability, and they used it to portray his villainy. No poly characters, no varying religious communities, heck they didn't even have any relationships between droids and organic life forms despite the Dr. Aphra comics trying to make it clear the Star Wars universe doesn't have our level of standards for what counts as an expected relationship. It's almost as if they weren't trying to be inclusive, just populist.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

The first 2 prequels made me realize the only Star Wars movie I really loved was Empire. New Hope and Jedi (apart from the advanced in film making they pioneered) were good, not great.

I still haven't seen episodes 3, 8, or 9 and I feel no desire to ever do so.

[–] Feathercrown 6 points 1 day ago

That's a lukewarm take tbh

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Episode 8 is my favourite of the sequels, 7 was just boring 9 was, well it exists. The Prequels are not as bad as the many think.

Episode 5 is my favourite over all, but I don't think that's an hot take.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

the last jedi is a top 3 star wars movie

id put it right above empire, with rots as number 1

[–] electric 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ooo, now this is a nuclear take.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

If by nuclear you mean OBJECTIVELY WRONG rabble rabble rabble

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It should have stopped after the OT.

[–] youstolemyname 2 points 22 hours ago

One was enough

[–] Pronell 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was so invested in the OT... and no more movies came, so I accepted there wouldn't be more movies.

As such when they came out and were shitty, I didn't mind as much.

That's made it easier for me to dip in and enjoy some of the new content. I'm not expecting it to be good, and can be surprised when it is.

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[–] electric 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

TFA was the only good sequel movie. Shit was cool, don't care if derivative.

[–] sanguinepar 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I loved TFA, but also really enjoyed Rise of Skywalker (yes, I'm the one). Though TLJ was appalling though.

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[–] Magister 7 points 1 day ago

I'm old, so I'd say: the Ewoks were jumping the sharks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The EU was the only good thing about it, the movies were always kinda mediocre.

[–] whotookkarl 6 points 1 day ago

The EU books, games, and comics before the prequel movies was peak Star wars. Thrawn trilogy, young Jedi series, rogue squadron series, bounty hunter short stories, x wing and tie fighter games, old Republic games and comics, dark forces, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I wonder why r2d2 doesn't simply close the stargates with his avatar powers (earth, wind, fire). 🤔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Because that would violate the prime directive.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

they shouldn't have made the sequels as they are at all. they should've just adapted the books into movies.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mine is that Star Wars is lame as absolute fuck as an actual lore-heavy universe. There are exceptions (Andor, some games) but overall it's just lame. It was always meant to be a kids focused world and the new movies were just absolute dogshit and seemed like they were made for 5 year olds. The 3 new movies were legitimately some of the most boring and stupid movies that I have ever seen in my life. Also holy fucking shit Boba was so fucking bad. The actual fuck even was that show?

What bothers me the most is the absolute inconsistency for how powerful Jedi and Sith are. Sometimes they seem like Goku from DBZ. Other times they seem weak as shit. It just doesn't make sense.

I find the Dune and Mass Effect universe to be infinitely more interesting than Star Wars.

Edit: ugh the ewoks from episode 6..... completely ruined the mood, just like Jar Jar and baby Yoda. It just pulls you right out of the vibe and slaps tou in the face with the fact that this is for little kids and not for you.

To summarize, Star Wars sucks and is dumb. I also think Harry Potter is lame as shit but that's a hot take for another day..

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

It's mediocre fantasy with star destroyers instead of dragons. Also muppets. So. Many. Muppets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I loved A New Hope and thought The Empire Strikes Back was brilliant. I never recovered from the Muppets in the opening act of Return of the Jedi. None of the movies since then have gotten as high on the scale as "good". The series have been a mixed bag, but none of them have had the grandeur of the first two movies.

[–] wjrii 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Last Jedi, especially if you don't take into account The Rise of Skywalker's sloppy reaction to it, is the best Star Wars movie since ROTJ, and maybe since Empire.

[–] ccunning 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes…

…except you clearly forgot about Rogue One.

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[–] themeatbridge 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Solo wasn't terrible, especially considering how much the sequels leaned into the nostalgia factor. Everyone hates on it because Han isn't as much of a "scoundrel" as they had inagined when he shot Greedo and then fell in love with Leia. But those characterizations are mostly headcanon. I have no trouble watching Solo and Rogue One as the bridge between the prequels and the OT.

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