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[–] just_another_person 130 points 1 month ago (47 children)

Thanks, Uncommitted Assholes.

[–] capt_wolf 72 points 1 month ago (20 children)

I loved having people arguing with me and saying "At least my conscience is clear."

How's your conscience now??? Still feeling good about your decision?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They think they get to wipe their hands of it because they "didn't participate", refusing to concede that said choice still counts as their participation. Through ignorance, cruelty, and/or privilege, they'll blame everyone else for the state of the world while refusing to do their part.

[–] CharlesDarwin 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Howard Zinn - you can't be neutral on a moving train. The Enlightened Centrists (TM) always look like suuuuuch dipshits when they talk about "both sides".

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"bUt i VoTeD iNdEpEnDaNt"

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[–] neanderthal 104 points 1 month ago (37 children)

Well, to all the folks arguing with me on how voting for Harris was bad because of Gaza: CONGRATULATIONS! You REALLY made a point there. The Palestinians had a chance under Harris. Instead of voting for a chance for the Palestinians, you did nothing or voted for genocide. You did it from the other side of the world, where you won't have to suffer the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"A vOTe fOR hARriS iS a VoTE FoR gENociDe"

Fucking morons

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Fucking Russians. Fixed it for you.

[–] cm0002 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

It's not genocide if they aren't people.

--Trump, Probably

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 month ago (2 children)

giving putin a free pass at ukraine will be after lunch, then?

[–] themeatbridge 24 points 1 month ago

He's not sure, he's still waiting on orders from Putin.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago

Putin isn't waiting, he apparently started amassing troops within a day of the election.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Can we not use Fox News, please? They legally argued in court they are strictly entertainment and no reasonable person would believe them. In other words, they are literal propaganda.

But yeah, I hope the smug voters that sat this election out are happy...

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[–] Bookmeat 54 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Let's be real. The Zionists in charge are Nazis and there was never a path out of genocide in these elections.

[–] SquatDingloid 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's also part of the evangelical grifter prophecy that the Jews be in control of all of old Isreal before the apocalypse starts.

Trump will dismantle this country and the Christians will cheer it on as society circles the drain because the version of their book that was rewritten in the 70s says so.

It will at least be funny to see them all realize that the "rapture" probably already happened and they're all still here XD

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[–] Etterra 43 points 1 month ago (22 children)

Boy those pro-Palestine folks that didn't vote for Kamala to protest her stance on the genocide sure did own the Democrats. I'm sure they're super happy about helping get Trump back in office and aren't at all upset about the leopards gnawing off their entire heads.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 40 points 1 month ago (15 children)

Where my “Democrats are evil genocide people” posters now?

[–] Ensign_Crab 19 points 1 month ago

Right here. Republicans being worse doesn't excuse selling weapons for an ongoing genocide. Democrats never should have done that. And it got you nothing. You supported genocide for nothing.

I think a lot of the hostility here is because centrists are mad that trump is going to be able to take credit for the complete implementation of their only policy.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Russians don't need to make them anymore.

[–] Ensign_Crab 15 points 1 month ago

Democrats should never have supported genocide. Am I a Russian?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm right here. Democrats are still evil for supporting a genocide, and your "lesser of two evils" logic continues to make us more evil.

What do you think of the 30 days the Democrats gave Israel to improve the humanitarian situation by measurable metrics? Israel failed every metric, but the Democratic administration ignores the results and continues to ship weapons to the genocidal regime.

What do you think of the dozens of international doctors who have been to Gaza saying they saw children with single gunshot wounds to the head almost everyday? Reports are widespread that israeli snipers are intentionally killing 100s of children each month.

What do think of Israels recent use of small arms drones? After an American/Israeli bomb destroys a civilian building, a dozen small drones swarm the area. These drones fire small cube-shaped projectiles with the force to pierce skin and break bones, using AI to target any human in the designated area. They are deadly accurate and fast, firing 3 at the head, 3 at the chest, and 3 at the groin. Doctors say these projectiles are especially hard to fish out of the bodies of the child victims as they rarely exit the body, instead they bounce around causing more internal damage.

Suggesting that the people upset about an ongoing genocide are just going to forget about it due to electoral politics is disgusting, and you should feel ashamed.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Why are americans so fuckin dumb? Instead of pointing their fingers at millions of trump voters, they are pointing it at people with empathy for having anti-genocider stance.

It feels like they are just interested in finding a scapegoat to blame rather than asking the real questions, why did so many people voted for trump? Did kamala, despite having more funding, failed to convey her plan? What happened and why it happened and how can it be avoided?

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[–] 2ugly2live 29 points 1 month ago (12 children)

Did anyone tell the Palestinians that this would have been the same and to not worry? We had brave, brave people who sat on their hands and did nothing in their name, so I hope they're grateful for their "sacrifice."

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[–] jumperalex 28 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Time for the 2nd stage of FAaFO for all those that fucked around.

No both sides were not equally bad choices for trying to stop the slaughter of non-combatants.

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[–] raynethackery 26 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I know this is a disgusting thought but, assuming there are ever free elections in the United States again, Gaza won't be an issue in 2028. Palestine will just be a memory.

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[–] surph_ninja 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)
[–] Kbobabob 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Currently, U.S. restrictions include an embargo on a certain weapons shipment and limitations on various combat-related equipment,

Read the article?

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What restrictions?, the article doesnt mention any, Bidens ultimatum came and went with no action.

Both sides were for unconditional aid to Israel, kamala may have added some laments about loss of life but she repeatedly said restrictions on military were off the table. Until someone can point to me a concrete policy that kamala had in her platform that was different from trump then yeah both sides are equally bad on this issue. Trump is worse on a lot of others but to a Palestinian they are both bad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The article has a vague statement trying to make it sound like there were lots of restrictions, but I think it's just the 2000 lb. bombs, and maybe some sort of guidance system (IIRC). Because it's a fucking Fox News article for some reason.

Currently, U.S. restrictions include an embargo on a certain weapons shipment and limitations on various combat-related equipment, even if they do not involve explosive ordnance.

Allowing them is definitely more bad, but it's going from like 95% of maximum complicity to 100%.

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[–] kreskin 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There are no restrictions to lift, but I guess it makes a good sound bite, even if its utter nonsense.

https://www.reuters.com/world/no-us-conditions-security-assistance-israel-austin-says-2023-10-12/

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The Democrats aren't in power anymore, Palestine is saved! /s

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[–] mlg 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Me trying to find the restrictions in question just like me trying to find Biden's red line and also just like me trying to find Blinken's endzone and also me trying to find the consequences of Israel's actions for the past 13 months.

What a joke lol

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[–] Questy 16 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Wait, the ~14,000 dead children complied with American restrictions? The damaging or destruction of over 80% of all structures in Gaza was within restrictions? Interesting. It's honestly going to be tough for the victims of genocide to tell the difference. It actually may benefit Israel's victims since America is likely to massively lose influence in the world with the clown car pulling into Washington. Many nations who likely want to push back against the genocide are under huge American pressure to stay silent and complicit, hopefully as America loses influence that could change.

Not saying that will occur, just an opinion.

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