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[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It would work until the polar bear population collapses in a couple generations due to inbreeding.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 days ago (1 children)

And once they eat all the penguins and starve

[–] MirthfulAlembic 7 points 6 days ago

St. Matthew Island with polar bears instead of reindeer.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It depends on the goal. For example it'd work if you want to render every penguin species endangered or worse.

[–] feedum_sneedson 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Neal Stephenson book, Termination Shock.

[–] mcqtom 107 points 1 week ago (3 children)

You may find you struggle with step 1.

[–] Lev_Astov 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Also step 2. $4MM is not enough to run the kind of vessel needed to go to the poles for the length of time needed.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been trying to do step one for years. But my bastard relatives refuse to die, and also refuse to be rich. Selfish I call it.

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[–] TheTechnician27 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Antarctica is generally colder than the Arctic. They would almost certainly be stuck along the coastlines of Antarctica like the penguins are, since the interior average temperatures rival the coldest ones ever recorded in the Arctic. They should be fine there, but then that means they have a very limited distribution and that penguins and seals consequently are always forced to share an environment with the polar bears. Because they're not used to the polar bears, their populations would likely be destroyed, leaving the polar bears to starve. Unlike in the Arctic, too, they would have nowhere to retreat if their food supply ran out. Outward is hundreds of kilometers of ocean, and inward is hundreds of kilometers of unsurvivable desert.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)

they would have nowhere to retreat if their food supply ran out.

Um. Hello? There are scientists there.


Which means scientific papers, then tourists, then garbage and a symbiotic relationship, then the eventual domestication of polar bears.
Not, you know, the international scientific community treating scientists like cats.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Always wondered what it would have been like had we domesticated these things

These limbs were adapted for efficient long-distance pacing, rather than the explosive acceleration and high speed pursuits

Terrifying

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Etymologists crying and shaking right now at the thought of Antarctica (meaning: without bears) gaining the one animal it's not supposed to have

[–] John_CalebBradberton 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

This comment sent me down a rabbit hole. I had no idea the arctic is called that because it was the Greek for 'of the bear' because they used Ursa Major to guide them north. And the the arctic is the most northerly point.

Fucking wild. Mind blown.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

And it's a hilarious coincidence that it resulted in the southern most point being Antarctica, as it just happens to be the only continent without bears.

[–] cevn 4 points 6 days ago

Wdf how are we just learning this?! Can’t they teach it with the continent names??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not saying this will definitely reverse the Earth's polarity and doom all life on earth, but do we really want to take that chance?!

[–] SkyezOpen 2 points 6 days ago

Looks at earth

Well, it probably won't get much worse, and if it does it'll at least be interesting to see.

[–] SirSamuel 25 points 1 week ago

I read that as entomologist for a second and was really confused

Figured it had something to do with fleas

[–] RegalPotoo 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd say that if all you want to do is scare the shit out of some scientists in Antarctica you probably only need 1 polar bear

[–] hypnicjerk 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah let's really confuse them. A lion.

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[–] TotalFat 37 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I've recently learned that bears absolutely love cocaine. I'm sure that's relevant here somehow.

[–] Crashumbc 2 points 6 days ago

I saw that documentary! That is boundary pushing science

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

4 million buy a freight boat

I work in supply chain but not a complete expert but the smallest cheapest working order freight ship I can find for sale is this one for $6MM, doesn't include licensing, crew, insurance and the dreyage/accessorial on live polar bears is gonna cost you big

https://petronav.net/container-ships-for-sale/container-adilia-i-ex-e-r-auckland

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[–] Ibaudia 31 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I think the penguins would learn to just swim away, and the bears would starve since they would need to expend a lot of effort for a small bird versus the calorie-dense seals they're used to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

So I'm hearing that we move some seals first...

[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)

To be fair, some penguins aren't exactly small

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe 1 points 4 days ago

The Emperor protects

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is a king penguin, not even the tallest subspecies (emperors are taller), but what you're looking at is an optical illusion because the penguin is much closer to the camera than the humans.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Damn, well I'm leaving it up anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Would work until the penguin pop. is too small and then they start dying out again

[–] Iheartcheese 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So then part of the program needs to be penguin Viagra to keep the numbers up

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

This reminds me of a friend that once proposed that if we really wanted to mess with Europe we could release a few packs of coyotes

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Then you have a penguin population crisis

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Don't penguins already have to survive orcas?

[–] SkyezOpen 6 points 6 days ago

Yeah, in the water. Giving them another apex predator on land won't make them happy, I'm sure.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was really hoping OP wanted to drop the polar bears on a tropical island. For science.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

They'd probably just turn back into grizzlies eventually.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

only if you can find some weird magnetic anomaly and plane crash survivors

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (5 children)

would have to be quite a few bears to avoid heavy inbreeding

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