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[–] [email protected] 191 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Lurkinney 65 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Already illegal in Missouri for pregnant women to divorce their spouse

[–] wafflez 45 points 3 months ago

Actually? That's so disgusting

[–] blanketswithsmallpox 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Not really, but it's more about child custody and child support if already married.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/posts-distort-missouri-divorce-law-regarding-pregnancy/

Nowhere in Missouri law does it say pregnant women are barred from getting divorced.

But a judge handling a case where one party is pregnant may wait to finalize that divorce until the baby is born, which, experts told us, is done in order to consolidate custody and child-support agreements with other end-of-marriage arrangements.

This can happen in other states, too.

[–] PriorityMotif 26 points 3 months ago

Still dangerous because the husband is empowered to make medical decisions in certain cases

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Holy shit. That's some dystopian nightmare

[–] NatakuNox 78 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Why would you marry someone that votes to make you a second class citizen?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some people have been married for longer than republicans have been open fascists.

[–] NatakuNox 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My dad used to listen to NPR but somewhere along the way NPR got replaced with Rush and Drudge. Thankfully he died before our relationship could be ruined by Trump but I know he would have been and I know it would have broken us.

[–] lennybird 10 points 3 months ago

You should watch, "The Brainwashing of my Dad" documentary. Sad reality for so many.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL 27 points 3 months ago

Why would someone vote for themselves to be a second class citizen?

I dunno.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I always wondered that and I finally met not one, but TWO people who fit this criteria.

The first person was married with kids, and she's afraid to leave because she doesn't know if she's the primary breadwinner, and to divorce would mean she would struggle taking care of two kids by herself. The husband isn't abusive (her comments), but he seems to want her to be a tradwife while also wanting her to work.

The second person shared that she married her high school sweetheart. But she was already questioning things when he spouted Joe Rogan/Jordan Peterson BS, and would flip out at work on male coworkers and put words in our mouths. After a report, I learned about her marriage issues and providing support for the past few months. But all the workplace can do is give her some therapy sessions and hopes she gets the fuck out of her predicament.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Why marry a turd in the first place? 🤷

[–] homesweethomeMrL 84 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Things happen. Stuff. Reasons.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (2 children)

People also change, and someone may over the long haul become something you didn't really expect out of them.

[–] cybersandwich 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who knows friends or family that fell down the magat hole understand this

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

This.There exists a pipeline from somewhere on the left to the alt right. It is dangerous to think otherwise.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This was my dad. He was always right leaning but then Trump came along and he went die hard political full on Trumpet.

He's one of the smartest people I know and watching him get more involved and more and more angry was terrifying.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I tend to believe people don't really change but they do tend to show their true colors eventually. However, some of us are not a great judge of character.

Life is also complicated and messy.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago

Alternatively, both Republican, and she changed for the better for herself.

[–] Crazyslinkz 33 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I disagree. Some people do change. Learn new things, car accidents change your life, cancer changes your life, new job, ...

The only thing constant is change.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Can confirm. I was a hard right conservative during Obama.

Life happens and now I'm an anti-capitalist pro-union progressive.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus 18 points 3 months ago

Congratulations on your positive change :)

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[–] TrickDacy 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Some of my best friends acted liberal until they hit 30 and suddenly they were Uber conservative. I'm less concerned with if they were really liberal before and more concerned with what they're okay with now. No longer friends with any of them because these are basic morality concerns

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[–] hushable 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I personality know two very liberal women who married right wing nutjobs, the first one married a full MAGA, proud boys type militia and election denier guy who she thought she could change him (she couldn't).

The other one thought that political differences didn't matter in a romantic relationship (it did).

Both ended up in divorce.

[–] rustyfish 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

she thought she could change him

Has this ever worked?! Like a single time in the history of our species?

Edit: I asked the High Council for Female Affairs (my girlfriend) about the why and her answer is - summarized: At the beginning of a relationship you see things you like and things you don’t like. Some try to quell the bad things and enhance the good things. The emotionally immature ones believe in “a perfect relationship” and actively try to form their partners instead of looking for someone who has less of those bad qualities. They tend to fail spectacularly.

[–] idiomaddict 14 points 3 months ago

My stepmom lived in one of the most liberal towns in Massachusetts, running a Montessori program before she and my Fox News watching dad got married. (We never actually talked about politics because they “had an agreement,” but I have to assume she was very liberal- probably not very left though)

She started voting republican after a few years :(

[–] Buddahriffic 11 points 3 months ago

Any of those topics that people who care more about society being polite than just tell you to avoid are ones that should be not just discussed but agreed on before making a relationship legally binding. Religion, money, politics. They are each too serious for "agree to disagree" to last long.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales 45 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think Trump is pissed about Taylor Swift, because all his young, Rogan listening, meathead voters are probably being pressured by their Swifty girlfriends into ditching Trump.

[–] pyre 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

unfortunately most of them don't have girlfriends. some of them never did. the party is relying on incels and divorced dads.

[–] MutilationWave 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget the old white boomer married men. They lived life on easy mode and simply can't comprehend that the world has changed.

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[–] captainlezbian 11 points 3 months ago

It’s not unfortunate. Girlfriends wouldn’t fix them, but they would do serious damage to girlfriends. They need to get their own shit together before dating

[–] homesweethomeMrL 10 points 3 months ago

One could hope

[–] cm0002 41 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Hm I wonder what the divorce rate is like when broken down along political views

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

Depends on whether the study is from places likely to be subject to bias like the “conservative” group institute for family values that claims county level polling shows more democrats get divorced (despite conceding the accuracy of state level polling?), or more normal groups that have shown for a decade plus now that red states have higher divorce rates. Top five are:

  1. Nevada
  2. Oklahoma
  3. Wyoming
  4. Alabama
  5. Arkansas
[–] jettrscga 21 points 3 months ago

I don't know what conclusion that would give. That they jump into marriage faster? That they're willing to leave a bad situation?

I don't think low divorce rates necessarily correlates to happier people.

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[–] PugJesus 27 points 3 months ago

Not just a concept

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

A maga version would be nice.

No sex with magas!

[–] Okokimup 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

On the contrary, during World War II, French prostitutes would purposely spread venereal disease to nazis. They would also get nazis hooked on heroin.

Unfortunately, MAGAs tend to already have both those issues.

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[–] Chocrates 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a great time to be on the market 😄

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[–] jordanlund 18 points 3 months ago

"WHILE YOU STILL CAN!"

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, I can’t relate to this kink. Not shaming, exactly, but I find divorce lawyers more attractive than this.

e: oh shit, I misread this because of the funky font. Carry on, I approve.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious what you read this as?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

‘Decode’. I came from an article that used that word a lot. Plus my eyes are shit.

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[–] chonglibloodsport 11 points 3 months ago (6 children)

People change. The old stereotype is that people tend to be very liberal in high school and college but become very conservative with a mortgage and a couple of kids. I don’t know how often that actually plays out but it makes sense.

When you don’t have anything it’s easy to demand a lot of things from the government. When you have money you want to do everything you can to hold onto it and that means not paying taxes. It flips around again when people are super rich though: then they don’t mind paying taxes (because their effective tax rate is very low). It’s the middle class who get screwed the most.

[–] Railing5132 45 points 3 months ago (9 children)

My dad, after a discussion in my young adult years turned political: "if you're not a liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart. If you're not conservative when you're an adult, you don't have a brain."

Well, dad, I have made it to adulthood with brilliant children and great relationships with them to boot. I'm still a screaming liberal and you're still a racist that is gargling the balls of a wannabe dictator.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Fatticus 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Have a mortgage and a kid, more left now than I ever was in my past. While recognizing that not everyone wants those things, my living standard really should be the baseline and I don't mind paying taxes to make it easier for others to achieve it. It does piss me off that most of my taxes go to a military I don't approve of though.

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[–] captainlezbian 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

As someone middle class I’d really like a functioning government more than the amount I’m taxed.

Also republicans don’t lower my taxes, they raise them and decrease funding for the poor then go on a rant about divorce needing to be banned

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