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[–] [email protected] 109 points 7 months ago (3 children)

you had me at "emotional support fish"

[–] mojofrododojo 38 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I lost it at 'buoyancy makes shells easier to move around'

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[–] Phoenix3875 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago

No they can't, that would be emotionally devastating.

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[–] TotalFat 70 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Use gasoline instead of water. Then you can eliminate the fuel tank. Side bonus would be protection from microbes for the crew. The government should also expect a reduction in pension and social security costs.

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[–] LouNeko 68 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  • also a bigger flex on the locals dying of dehydration.
[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Great point!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Ask the crew of the CSS Hunley what water and shockwaves does to human bodies.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] marcos 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I would rather not ask either.

Don't ask what all that weight does to the running surfaces either. Some things it's better to just not know.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

A modern tank is already about 70 metric tons, 3 or 4 more wont matter that much.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Yeah that sounds kinda boring. What’s the worst that could happen

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

There (shouldn't) be any blast from the gun firing released inside the tank itself. So, you've got vibration that'll pass through the water. It might increase that, but that's not direct exposure to the blast.

There's still air around the muzzle. Maybe water makes up some of the distance, but there is still a buffer of compressable air in there.

I'm not sure that it wouldn't cause problems, but I'm not sure that it wouldn't, either. I don't think that it'd just be the "depth charge near people in the water" issue.

EDIT: Though some artillery has that recoil-compensating mechanism where the breach moves back when the gun fires. I dunno whether that's true of the main gun on an MBT, but if so, that might cause issues.

googles

Yeah, here's an Abrams doing it. That might suck.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sC2ePKRvo9k

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Water transmits shockwaves to meat bags far more efficiently than air. Everyone’s lungs will be shredded if the tank is hit by an RPG.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I mean just put a pop-up valve at the top lol.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Does anyone have a confederate ouija board?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I know this is non credible defense, but I would absolutely LOVE a breakdown of all the ways this is a terrible idea

[–] [email protected] 26 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

It might unironically be a good idea except for the increased weight. Also shockwaves from impacts.

[–] CheeseNoodle 33 points 7 months ago

Yeh the shockwaves would just transition perfectly into the crews bodies and turn them into paste.

[–] LwL 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My first thought is the crew would be cooked alive

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Yeah I thought so too. Besides that, Oxygen running out would be a problem, and perhaps reliability of diving equipment.

And every operator would need a full one diving suit too, increasing production and maintenance cost.

Perhaps the tank would rust?

More fuel needed.

Electronics would need to be waterproof, otherwise they short circuit, breaking and perhaps harmin the crew.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The first issue that comes to mind is the noncompressible nature of water. If you've ever played in a pool and marveled at how clearly you can hear a digital watch beep all the way from the other end, you can scale this up for any pressure wave. With very unpleasant results.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

In the desert, bees swarm water.

[–] perviouslyiner 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Water isn't clean enough to make a cup of tea with

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago

If out of supplies, the tactical emotional support fish can be eaten as well

[–] Zehzin 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Explosions will fuck you up harder underwater though won't they? Or is that when the explosion happens underwater? I feel like there was a MythBusters episode on this

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

should have written "can piss while operating tank" at the end

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

who said that you can't on a regular tank?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
  • Probably eliminates a lot of the problems with making a tank amphibious.
[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Zehzin 6 points 7 months ago

They should add water to submarines too

[–] psmgx 15 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Wouldn't hydrostatic shock be a serious problem?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago

Only briefly.

[–] BraveLittleToaster 22 points 7 months ago

You can't get shocked because tanks are grounded

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Not really, there is a pop-up valve on top and there is compressable air inside as well.

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[–] yokonzo 14 points 7 months ago (19 children)

That water would boil real fast

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[–] Ibaudia 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't the water also insulate heat inside the cabin?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Yes water cooling works because water conducts heat better than air

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

armor cookoff is one of the bastardized terms of all time.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

This hearkens to the reason they're called tanks in the first place.

[–] Furbag 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If we were playing War Thunder, this would be "CREW KNOCKED OUT" just waiting to happen.

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