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Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has banned lab-grown meat, saying he will "save our beef" from the "global elite" and its "authoritarian plans".

"Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs," Mr DeSantis said in a statement. 

The first-in-the-nation law prohibits anyone from selling or distributing lab-grown meat in Florida.

Similar efforts are under way in Alabama, Arizona and Tennessee. 

Lab-grown or "cultivated" meat was first cleared for consumption in the US in 2022.

The process of making cultivated meat involves extracting cells from an animal, which are then fed with nutrients such as proteins, sugars and fats. The end product is genetically indistinguishable from traditionally produced meat.

Studies have suggested that eating cultivated meat can cut carbon emissions and water usage, and free up land for nature, compared to eating traditionally produced meat.

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[–] FlyingSquid 182 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Ah, the 'global elite,' who they also call 'globalists.' And who are they talking about?

The term is now frequently used as a pejorative by far-right movements and conspiracy theorists, as in the New World Order conspiracy theory;[3] it is associated with antisemitism, as antisemites frequently appropriate the term globalist to refer to Jews.[3][4][5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globalism

[–] uberdroog 47 points 7 months ago

He is just a turd.

[–] meleecrits 32 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Remember, that's just a wild conspiracy. Criticizing the Israeli government's genocide is antisemitic though...

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 30 points 7 months ago (7 children)

I think the term has no real meaning to them anymore. It’s just another term thrown at anything they don’t like, like “woke” or whatever. I’m sure some definitely use it deliberately, but I think most lack the directed prejudice and just use it lazily as a catch-all for “liberal”.

[–] Carrolade 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the whole point of obfuscating it in the first place. If you come out and say "Jews who control the world want to force everyone to eat bugs", you sound like an idiot. So, you give it a candy coating to make it go down better, and hope a certain percentage will eventually "do their own research" and come to your desired conclusion.

It's the most strategically sound method you can come up with to perpetuate the conspiracy theories in the modern day. It's similar to how cults don't start the recruitment process by walking up to you and going "Hey, want to join a cult?"

[–] wanderer 12 points 7 months ago

The late, legendarily brutal campaign consultant Lee Atwater explains how Republicans can win the vote of racists without sounding racist themselves:
You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*****, n*****, n*****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*****, n*****.”

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

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[–] [email protected] 115 points 7 months ago (21 children)

I can't wait for lab grown meat to become widely available (in my state at least). I think it's really cool. Being able to eat real meat without harming animals sounds so futuristic. It's one piece of future technology that I can actually get behind.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Agreed. I think the environmental impact is much lower as well, which is basically a win/win if prices can compete with farmed animals.

[–] billiam0202 19 points 7 months ago

It could, if we could stop giving factory farms subsidies and give them to lab-meat-makers instead.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah me too.

Even if you don't care about animals, synthetic will be cheaper, tastier, healthier, and better for the environment.

Honestly the only thing not to like about it is that you don't like the idea.

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[–] MrMeanJavaBean 82 points 7 months ago

Conservative "Free Market Values" at play

[–] breadsmasher 77 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Do his supporters really believe hes an “every man” like them, and not literally one of the “global elite”?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They like him because he hates the right people.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago

His supporters love hierarchy. All they want is white supremacist hierarchy. If they are in a middle tier and the bottom tiers are suffering that is their ideal society.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"To fight authoritarianism, the government is going to restrict your dietary choices!"

  • Don Insantis
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[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (7 children)

If you don't want it, don't buy it, problem solved!

bUt MuH fReEdOmS!?

The only thing that can stop a bad meat maker is a good meat maker?!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I didn't realize the market was so fragile and needed conservatives to control it so closely. You learn something new every day!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Ya, you know, free-market and all that. Exactly what they have been borking up a tree about for decades now.

/s for those that need it.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (12 children)

For your convenience:

https://www.goodmeat.co/

The company who's product they are banning.

Along the same vein, there was another company recently who made plant based blue cheese that was disqualified from a blue cheese contest after they were going to take first.

https://boingboing.net/2024/04/29/after-a-vegan-blue-cheese-won-the-good-food-award-panicked-dairy-cheese-makers-forced-the-foundation-to-disqualify-it.html

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 7 months ago

"Florida is fighting back against the global elite's plan to force the world to eat meat grown in a petri dish or bugs," Mr DeSantis said in a statement.

"Force the world" by... Having it as an option.

The party of small government and the free market everybody!

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago

You are part of the elite you stupid stupid fuck

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I want lab grown steaks so bad. Why are these 'Capitalist' so against the free market?

[–] buddascrayon 15 points 7 months ago

They always have been. Capitalism isn't about a free market, it's about keeping the richest most powerful industrialists at the top.

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[–] recapitated 33 points 7 months ago

What a cool party of freedom and personal responsibility

[–] randon31415 29 points 7 months ago (6 children)

So, if the 'global elite' are not the 1%, and as seen from this whole Gaza thing, they are not 'the jews' (which is what I though Republicans were always coyly referring to when they used that term), who the heck do the Republicans think the 'Global Elite' are?

[–] m13 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Queer students, the vaccinated, and single moms who have to work 3 shitty jobs to pay rent. Those are the true global elite.

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[–] SPRUNT 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Anyone who tries to benefit society without concern for profit.

Actually, anyone who tries to do anything without concern for profit.

If you're not familiar with the Farengi from Star Trek, look them up. It matches Republicans pretty well.

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[–] 108 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Florida seems to ban something every week.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Florida seems to ban something every week.

Brought to you by the "party defending your freedom"...

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[–] taanegl 26 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Maybe? I mean the big criticism is that it's just highly processed food at the end of the day and that the process of production is what is the issue. This is of course an argument made by what you may call food purists, who'd rather you spend money on a proper blender than rely on big corporations to form Scop 2.0.

But that's not what Ronnie boy is thinking about. Oh no. He's thinking about "owning the libs", "showing them what for", and what kind of cretinous, disingenuous bastard he can be. He would gladly invest in something like Scop 2.0 if it made a lot of money, AND performatively ban it in his state if it vaguely had an LGBTQ+ tinge to it.

This is a careful reminder that some states banned solar panels out of spite... because people elect absolute troglodytes to represent them, and then have the balls to talk about "free markets".

GTFO here with your fake self. In fact, take the whole republican party with you.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I mean the big criticism is that it's just highly processed food at the end of the day and that the process of production is what is the issue.

Not really? I honestly have not heard anyone argue like this against lab grown meat. The whole point of it is to have more ethical meat that also does not destroy our basis of life through emissions.

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[–] werefreeatlast 25 points 7 months ago

It's not enough to be cast aside for veganism now I can't even have a choice of what to eat? WTF!

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sawed-off, short-sighted fascist strikes again.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (9 children)

Something about "global elite" just sounds antisemitic to me... is this the new new "international Jewry?"

Could be I just have a hair trigger response these days, though

[–] NeptuneOrbit 17 points 7 months ago

It's a dog whistle yes

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

For someone's who's a big capitalist, it seems like he's never heard of a free market economy. Just let the market decide which meat is best. Or better yet, let the people!

This is not an endorsement of our late-stage capitalist economy, rather a critic of Ronny's hypocrisy.

[–] Sludgehammer 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

“global elite”

That's weird, all my dogs just started barking.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (2 children)

At this point, this guy is a just a troll. This loser needs to go.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (8 children)

Who else than a large corp with sufficient funding can develop and market lab-grown meat anyway? Of course this kind of stuff will come from a large corp at first. Is he willing to launch a state-owned lab to fund it publicly? Yeah, I didn't think so.

It's not like people will jump at the opportunity to buy some backyard-shed-grown meat today, as appetizing that might sound.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Really tackling the major problems first there. As we all know I've grown meat is everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Ron is one of those people who knows how bad he is, but it's up to the useful of idiots of Florida to figure it out for themselves.

Not everyone in Florida is a moron, far from it. But enough of them are bad enough that it's scary watching them throw their lives away because they let ideas they don't even like live rent free in their heads.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

In this upside down world, the Jews standing together with oppressed people protesting apartheid and genocide are called antisemites by the same people who use every antisemitic trope in the books.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 13 points 7 months ago (7 children)

“They’re gonna take your burgers away!” Is the new rallying cry of the weird Right.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He's a staunch free market Republican. Dude is seriously just throwing out dog whistle BS to conspiracy theorists. What is wrong with eating bugs? Does the little pansy give them icky?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I AM THE GLOBAL ELITE.
KNEEL BEFORE MY VEGAN MIGHT!
ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR.

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