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[–] [email protected] 95 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It should be noted that this is just a method to determine the amount of infected cows. The milk itself isn't a threat to anyone. Virus fragments in themselves can't do anything, they're just a sign of the original cow problem.

Call out anyone that tries to fearmonger about the milk being dangerous.

[–] Ghostalmedia 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The bigger concern, that not many people are taking about, is wildlife. This bird flu is spreading out in the wild and has been taking out all sorts of endangered birds and mammals in mass quantities.

And if something jumps into humans, it’s more likely to happen from the massive spread happening in local wildlife.

[–] FenrirIII 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No more tongue when kissing pigeons. Got it.

[–] ninekeysdown 2 points 6 months ago

That tumescence cloaca that really does it for you huh?

[–] WhyDoYouPersist 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah gotta nip that in the bud. Although people stepping away from buying dairy milk wouldn't be so bad I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hooray for lactose intolerance!

^yay^

[–] WhyDoYouPersist 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[–] Fedizen 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One of the health orgs did note raw milk may pose a risk.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But raw milk is also not allowed to be sold for human consumption.

[–] ninekeysdown 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's still people using livestock dewormer as a cure all when they can't get their doc to write a script... so not drinking raw milk is just a libtard "suggestion" to them or the person saying it is just "in the pocket of big dairy" ...

weee!!! oh what a fun & exciting dystopia we're in!! /s

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You talking about Ivermectin? Do you know that’s been prescribed hundreds of millions of times as human medicine before the pandemic?

That’s like calling popcorn “livestock feed”.

edit: It’s a serious question. Did you know that or not? If it’s true and you didn’t know it, what does that imply about your information sources?

[–] ninekeysdown 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah it’s widely considered the most important medicine in human history. It’s amazing for what it does when used for what it should be!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It is some places, in the US it varies state by state.

Source: https://milk.procon.org/raw-milk-laws-state-by-state/

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

From what I've read it doesn't seem to be a particularly severe disease for cows anyway. The hubbub is mostly about the potential for farm and dairy workers to catch it directly from a cow, which still seems like an incredibly rare occurrence

[–] _wizard 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Seems to hit cats a bit hard. Not that you should be feeding them milk anyways.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/veterinarians-handling-cats.htm

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The milk isn't contagious anyway

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Most cats are lactose intolerant and milk can make them sick because of that.

[–] werefreeatlast 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

OCP! Original Cow Problems! I figured out RoboCop finally!

[–] Crackhappy 2 points 6 months ago

Dead or alive, you're drinking my milkshake!

[–] [email protected] 79 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Health officials maintain — and experts agree — that pasteurized milk is safe to drink. The FDA detected small pieces of the virus in milk, not live, infectious virus.

“Right now, all indication is that pasteurization is effective,” said Dr. Andrew Bowman, a veterinary epidemiologist at Ohio State University.

Pasteurization doing its job.

[–] aeronmelon 36 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Louis Pasteur wasn't messing around.

[–] motor_spirit 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

and then there was Leroy Brown

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All those downtown ladies call him "Treetop Lover"

All the men just call him "Sir"

[–] b3an 5 points 6 months ago

Meaner than a junkyard dog?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I hear that Louis Pasteur is working on a vaccine that will obliterate anthrax once and for all.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The virus, a strain of bird flu called H5N1, is concerning to public health officials because of its high fatality rate: More than half of the people who have contracted the illness have died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

There's a certain crowd of people who are absolutely determined to consume raw milk. You can't get it across state lines, because the FDA bans it, but some states permit it internally.

This might cause some states to stop that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_raw_milk_debate

Especially if the raw milk fans catch it and then start spreading it to other people.

EDIT: Looks like the FDA has commented on it.

https://www.aphis.usda.gov/sites/default/files/hpai-dairy-faqs.pdf

Could the consumption of raw milk from these states impact human health?

FDA’s longstanding position is that unpasteurized, raw milk can harbor dangerous microorganisms that can pose serious health risks to consumers, and FDA is reminding consumers of the risks associated with raw milk consumption in light of the H5N1 detections.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

There's a certain crowd of people who are absolutely determined to consume raw milk. You can't get it across state lines, because the FDA bans it, but some states permit it.

My state's dumbass legislators, ladies and gentlemen: https://mashable.com/article/raw-milk-sick-lawmakers

[–] Bassman1805 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Please be the story of the congressfolk that legalized raw milk, celebrated by drinking raw milk, and all got sick as a result...

Fuck yeah.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

You got it! lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If Cleetus McNumbnuts becomes Patient Zero in another global pandemic, this time with a mortality rate of over 50%, it won't be something to cheer about.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/avianflu/inhumans.htm

Wear recommended personal protective equipment (PPE) when working directly or closely with sick or dead animals, animal feces, litter, raw milk, and other materials that might have the virus.

Wash hands with soap and water, then put on PPE in this order:

  1. Fluid-resistant overalls.

  2. Waterproof apron, if needed for job task.

  3. NIOSH-approved respirator

  4. Properly-fitted unvented or indirectly-vented safety goggles or face shield

  5. Head cover or hair cover.

  6. Gloves

  7. Boots

Avoid touching your eyes, mouth, or nose after touching any contaminated material.

Meanwhile, Cleetus has purchased his jug of active virus and is happily drinking it.

EDIT: Probably more like Cleetus giving said jug to his kids.

https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/rawmilk/rawmilk-outbreaks.html

Among illnesses linked to unpasteurized milk that occurred from 2013 through 2018, 48% (325) were among people aged 0–19 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

While McGeehan admitted that there were "some other colleagues that have similar symptoms that I've been experiencing," he doesn't think that milk is the cause. And even if it was the cause, McGeehan doesn't regret voting for the bill.

"There definitely shouldn't be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law," he said.

That does seem kind of tautological.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

They are using "rule of law" to mean "whatever I want". Rest assured that if their child was sickened, they would sue immediately. And probably blame trans immigrants or something.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

This bit from the article is amazing:

"There definitely shouldn't be a law against allowing people to do what they want within the framework of the rule of law," he said.

[–] frickineh 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The raw milk people are wild to me, because raw milk is disgusting even without the bird flu, and they're so committed to it. The more people point out that it's gross and unsafe, the more they want it. Drinking pus to own the libs, I guess?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I will say I'm a huge fan of having it around for cooking.

It think its as good or better than pasteurized in a sauce, and then when it starts to sour, the coolest thing is I can separate it and turn the cream into butter and get buttermilk leftover.
I can then keep using both for cooking and baking.

I think raw milk has a place with understanding of what you are buying, but I don't know if other people are like me and actually just gulping it down.

[–] grue 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I was going to express a similar sentiment: having the milk be unpasteurized can be an important difference when it's a base ingredient that's being further processed (e.g. to make fancy French-style cheese or something), but you're not really supposed to just straight-up drink the stuff.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yeah, any DNA or RNA in there is going to be completely denatured because of the pasteurization. But that doesn't mean the physical components of the genes just goes away. It is made ineffective and harmless, but it serves as a useful measure on how many cows are infected.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

But the cheese, the poor poor cheese.

[–] rockSlayer 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

NBC needs to update their stock image of milk. It's expired

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Comcast is too busy overcharging for mediocre broadband to care about their tv channels stock art. (They own NBC. Which makes total sense, right?)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Concerning infrastructure investment, we should really put a lot into waste measurement everywhere for issues that affect health. It's the best alarm for growing problems at a large scale sampling that can't be fudged or missed. Many areas have all but stopped constant monitoring because of budget.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Seems like bird flu in dairy herd cows is spreading quickly

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Puts hair on your chest, boy!

[–] ninekeysdown 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

end animal agriculture already