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The former president fired off a series of potentially defamatory statements as he arrived in court

As he arrived at a federal courthouse in lower Manhattan, Donald Trump’s Truth Social account released an avalanche of posts attacking E Jean Carroll, who is suing the former president for defamation.

A jury in New York City will determine what damages he owes Ms Carroll, whom Mr Trump defamed by repeatedly calling her a liar and denying that he sexually assaulted her.

It’s the second trial stemming from defamation claims brought by Ms Caroll, and a jury already found him civilly responsible for sexually abusing her in the 1990s. He continues to claim that he never met her and has repeatedly mocked and ridiculed Ms Carroll in the wake of that verdict.

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[–] [email protected] 203 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And a huge chunk of the country somehow goes, "Yep, just what I'm looking for in November."

[–] Daft_ish 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

A huge chunk of the country just down plays everything.

"OH, if it's really so bad why haven't I heard about it." I just told you mf'r.

"Trump is the victim in all this." Get fucked. In no way has that silver spoon orange cum rag ever been a victim in his life. We are talking about the person that is suppose to represent and lead umpteen million Americans and you're treating him with kid gloves.

"Innocent until proven guilty." He was proven guilty.

"It's only civil court, it's not criminal." Hold still while I shove this goalpost up your ass.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

A survey done at the Iowa caucus asked "if Trump is convicted, would you still vote for him?". Only about a quarter of Republicans asked said no...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

1/4 of republicans splitting the vote pretty much means a free win for dems though. Don't let the irony of this election compared to the 2016 Bernie situation slide past you lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not a 1/4 who won't vote for him but a 1/4 who won't admit it.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So during a trial to decide damage amounts for previously made defamatory statements, you launch into a bunch of new defamatory statements?

Bold move cotton, we'll see how it plays out.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 56 points 10 months ago (1 children)

She can do this all decade long you stupid orange rapist. 5 Million. 20 Million. 100 Million. 300 Million. Keep it coming you idiot fuck.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If she's the one that breaks him we will finally have proof of the inmate goodness of the universe

[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago

"Inmate" lol

That's an amusing typo in this context.

[–] dhork 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

He is banking on the publicity that making the additional defamatory statements will give him with his voting base. He is hoping that his re-election will at the very least stall all the proceedings against him, and he may even be able to quash some of them after re-election.

The more forceful he is at his defense, the more his supporters dig in. He doesn't care about defying the court, because he hopes to make the court irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The more forceful he is at his defense, the more his supporters dig in. He doesn't care about defying the court, because he hopes to make the court irrelevant.

Unfortunately the more I read from the right the more disturbing it is. I find they want blood and punishment for all the things they find wrong and they don't want to have to deal with anything complicated again.

The most convenient lies will do and there is no use for courts as they are not extreme enough. Faces must be eaten. Sadly it will be some of theirs too.

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[–] Nudding 13 points 10 months ago

You dropped this: (again)

[–] FlyingSquid 81 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Imagine if some country tries to stare us down while this guy is president.

We'll be a radioactive hole.

[–] newthrowaway20 104 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's way more likely that we get manipulated and taken advantage of. Other countries realize Trump is easily manipulated because he's a narcissist, and it'd be much simpler to stroke his ego while he opens our wallets .

[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If their leader is smart enough to manipulate us. I don't know that Kim is.

[–] Atom 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

He sure is. Remember he invited Trump across the border and told him he was the first president to come over. Trump bragged about that afterwords and talked about opening hotels on the NK waterfront.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's smarter than Trump at least

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[–] Art3sian 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

“You owe damages of $3M, Mr. Trump.”

“Well, she’s a nasty person.”

“You now owe $3.2M.”

“And a liar.”

“$3.5M.”

“She’s not even…”

“$4M.”

“This is horse…”

“$4.2M.”

“But I…”

“$4.8M.”

“You’re a nasty person, too.”

“$5M, Mr. Trump, plus you’re now in contempt of court. I can do this all day.”

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

And I'd readily watch that all day.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He's campaigning. A large part of the country love this sort of behaviour and if it costs him a few mill well then donations will take care of that.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 48 points 10 months ago

Defaming someone just as you're arriving at a trial to determine how much extra you're going to owe for defaming them again after already being fined for defaming them would be SUCH a badass move if it wasn't so stupid and coming from someone so vile..

[–] DandomRude 48 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

When I read these things I am tempted to believe more and more that all hope in humanity is lost. I can't believe that our so-called allies in America are not able to recognize injustice and treat it the same way. Your society is finished - there is no other way to put it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Half of all Americans have an IQ under 95.

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[–] Stanwich 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don't think it's possible for them to change. Their democracy is done. They are now a warning symbol to the world. I know I'll start looking into my own countries politics . I've been addicted to the shit show coming from the states. I do always wonder how more extreme it is in the news then what the average American sees.

[–] TurtleJoe 42 points 10 months ago

If he wins, we're done. No doubt about it. However, if we hold back the fascists this election (this includes the House and Senate,) there is a real chance at landing a huge defeat to maga extremism in '26 and '28.

Yes, you should be paying attention to your local politics: right wing extremism is on the rise everywhere.

[–] DandomRude 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

That's right. The USA are a good example of the downfall of a democracy. Even the most powerful in the world; and all that for no good reason - maybe pure greed or hybris or whatever; i can't make any sence of this. We can only learn from it. In any case, I am not prepared to accept this complete loss of any moral compass. A democracy should stand for all people. Not just for a few privileged ones.

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[–] Coach 47 points 10 months ago

He's shooting people in the middle of Fifth Avenue. Judge: What are you going to do about it?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It would be amazing if the jury said jail time would be more effective than another monetary settlement. Fingers crossed.

[–] FlyingSquid 31 points 10 months ago (8 children)

I don't think they have that ability.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Just treat him like he was black. Charge him with contempt for anything, the way he is breathing is too loud, and set the bail for more than he can afford. $1.5 trillion?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They don't have that ability in a civil trial, but could they say that? Something like "Here's the incredibly large amount of compensatory and punitive damages, which we still do not believe will suffice to prevent Trump from repeating this behavior. We believe that only detention will be successful in putting an end to this continuing defamation."

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess the only hope now is to try and bankrupt him…again

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well when one is a professional Loser like Trunp, another bankruptcy is no big deal. It's par for the course.

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[–] Skyrmir 11 points 10 months ago

Just start calling in the new jury on the campaign finance violations he's about to commit the second he has to pay the settlement. Those carry actual jail time.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

He lost another 2 lawyers. Is there a number out there, how many lawyers he had that were withdrawing? Many withdrawing only days/ a day before a trial, which a lawyer only ever does if they are deadly ill or their client is so unhinged that they can not risk being with them in a court room.

[–] TheJims 16 points 10 months ago

He goes through lawyers like it’s dollar store bronzer

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At this point i don't understand how he gets lawyers in the first place. Ok so maybe a few of them are crazy republicans, makes sense, but he has a wellnearned reputation for not paying his attorneys and I would think that would be enough to keep them from signing up in the first place.

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[–] nature_man 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

What is with all the leniency the courts are giving him? It feels like every month its "Judge orders Trump to stop doing thing he was ordered to stop doing several times already", if I acted that way in any trial I guarantee I would be charged for contempt of court

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They're trying to provoke the judge so they can have room for appeal or at least fodder for his mentally stunted base. "This judge was so mean to me, I couldn't get a fair trial." Especially if they can make the judge snap at them, then that's what it's about: an unhinged, emotional, hothead judge abusing their power.

Luckily I think most of the judges smelled him coming and are just giving him all the rope he wants. That's my hope at least. Then if they do jail him for contempt they've got stacks of evidence and second chances. I may be giving them too much credit.

[–] ashok36 16 points 10 months ago

When you're famous they let you do it.

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[–] LEDZeppelin 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, Iowa voters!

/s

[–] themeatbridge 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just another reminder that Iowa voters are generally morons who back a loser more often than they pick a winner.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 10 months ago

Counterpoint: losers of presidential elections have been president as often as not in the past 20 years

[–] xc2215x 21 points 10 months ago

This should surprise nobody.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

He really doesn't know when to shut up, hopefully that will be his undoing.

[–] CatsGoMOW 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately that doesn’t seem to have been the case his entire life so far.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

In large part - perhaps exclusively - because corporate news is utterly incapable of saying the basic truth. He's a demented rapist fraud who can not stop lying.

They can't say that! They can't get close to saying that! And that is what gives him his rabid base.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Hahaha boy I love this. On the hook for 10, who knows where it ends.

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