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[–] [email protected] 115 points 10 months ago (2 children)

cause a motor is more expensive than a sensor.

NOW STOP RESISTING AND DO WHAT THE DEVICE SAYS OR HE CALLS THE VACUUM THAT WILL WIP YA ASS.

[–] Zehzin 70 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You don't need a motor though, there's a lever thing you put on doors to make them close, they already put them in fridges.

The true reason is that a motor or hinge or even just s thing that makes noise when the fridge is left open too long (mine has that) or whatever doesn't collect your personal data

[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Ding ding ding!

“Download the Smart Fridge app to utilize our Open Door Alert service.”

App Store: Data linked to you - ALL

Why keep the milk fresh when you can stick a tracker up the cows ass for a huge profit?

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[–] CriticalMiss 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

is it not possible to use of those mechanical handles they put on top of regular doors in public places?

[–] kn33 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Everyone's missing the real issue. Springs, motors, or pneumatics don't matter if there's something in the way preventing it from closing. A cheap fridge on an uneven floor will close the door itself if there's nothing in the way, but if the jug of milk is hanging off the edge of the shelf with no room behind it, the door isn't closing without something getting damaged.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Additionally I might want it open for an extended period of time, such as loading or unloading a lot of items

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[–] LavaPlanet 60 points 10 months ago (2 children)

$50 bucks says they didn't even think of that.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, wtf. How do they get your data then?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Samsung Appliances don't have the best track record for being reliable... Something tells me if they did add something like that, within the first year it'd either break down OR work too well and result in a number of loss of limb lawsuits against the company.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Problem: I barely check my phone when I'm home. If I'm home, I'm usually on my laptop or watching my TV.

Fortunately, my fridge doesn't have this problem. Instead, it beeps very loudly whenever the door is open for too long.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well... One would assume the beep is still a thing, is just an extra so if you are not near it you also get a notification.

The beeper thing costs pennies... so not exactly a cost cutting thing... But you never know.... and without knowing the model etc difficult to check.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

just put a fucking spring on the fucking door (like a weak one)

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My fridge is ever so slightly tilted. I can throw the door open, grab all I need, and it will close after me just on time.
Life is good.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

This is the way. No "smart" fridges needed

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

We added some small wood pieces under the front feet to do this. Solved a lot of marriage problems with this one simple trick that actually works. Number 2 will shock you.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Retrofuturism: Clever houses would do everything for you, just get back and relax. Your personal assistant would get you whiskey with ice and put some jazzy vinyl for a good evening.

Actual future: You did what to me stupid human? BTW, there are 99+ notifications from our furniture and our partners. Oh, and your toilet paper subscription is due tommorow, don't think you'd get away with unscrewing the lock this time, I'd watch the shit of you!

[–] MegaUltraChicken 28 points 10 months ago

Just popping in as a former user to say Smartthings is fucking garbage. Use Home Assistant or any other self hosted solution. Don't waste your effort with Smartthings.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (16 children)

I don't hate this, but I also don't like it.

Not because it's a bad idea, or it should have been better, but because, to me, it seems like any obvious idea about how to make smart things do stuff that's actually practical like this is usually behind some walled garden, and different walled gardens don't really work with other walled gardens.

Like with having smart things (the Samsung product line) and Google home, and Philips hue smart bulbs, you now have three things all working "together" ... "In the cloud". And you're entirely limited to whatever those cloud services and/or manufacturers want you to be able to do with them....

What if I want my smart speaker to play "Ice ice, baby" whenever I leave the freezer open, and have the lights go blue and blink or something? It's two back to back horribly complicated processes to get SmartThings to talk to the "works with Google" system, same with hue, then a cludge of weird commands that work today, but next week might entirely break, all dependent on whether anything is still talking to eachother, and even if I can do all that, there's no guarantee that I can use "freezer door left open for x minutes" as a trigger for the activity.... Additionally, I need to find a way to source the song on my Google assistant, so now I need to tie in Spotify or YouTube music, or something to my "works with Google" crap... It's just a lot of work to even get to the point where you can see what options you have.

This is a fairly simple example, but still... And then I have to ask, why the hell does it need to bounce around the "cloud" so much just to perform an action on the lights in my house, for the alert from the fridge that's also in my house?

Then I also have to wonder, how many fracking devices do they expect me to put on my wifi, and how much more do I need to spend so that I don't need to reboot my wifi doesn't every other day, otherwise it drops my "smart" home things?

I can't drink the Samsung Kool aid exclusively, they don't make lights or smart speakers, I can't do the same with Google, they don't make lights or fridges, and I certainly can't with Phillips. So I'm stuck with some internet reliant thing to do the same job as a $1 magnetic sensor, a cheap speaker, and a cannibalized novelty get well soon card that plays music when you open it.... I can add blue lights that react to sound for a few dollars more and get the same effect, and not have to shell out thousands of dollars on a fancy fridge, fancy lights, hours of my frustration, and a fancy wifi system to make it all go.

..... To be fair, I've done all those things, I don't have a smart fridge, but I use home assistant, and this gives me an idea. I just need to buy one of those door/window open sensors, and I can get it done.

To clarify, I started in "smart" home stuff with some hue bulbs, partly to see what all the fuss was about, then the Mrs, while away from the hue system, complained that she had to get up from bed to turn off the lights one night and I knew I was done for. Now I have nearly 100 smart home devices, and I still have those hue bulbs. I'm waiting for them to die so I can buy smart bulbs that don't require the cloud, which I've already replaced most of the other lights in my home with. I've added smart light switches, so I can trigger scenes and automations from the wall (and keep the power to the smart lights from being turned off), and many many sensors (mostly temp/humidity/air quality)... Everything I've installed recently (about 60 IoT things) have been locally controlled via zwave, directly to home assistant, so getting something like the above done, should only need a sensor to know if the freezer/fridge was not properly closed all the way.

Anyways. Prior to migrating to home assistant, I was doing the "works with Google" dance and it was not fun, and suddenly, anytime my internet went out, I lost control over half the stuff in my home. I hate how reliant we've become on the "cloud" to do simple stuff like turn on the lights. I'm not a fan. Thus, home assistant. I have, and will continue to seek out alternatives to stuff like SmartThings, that I can control and manage locally.

My final note is: being able to adjust the thermostat, and turn on the lights from the bed/couch/wherever, is the tits. Carry on.

[–] abbotsbury 12 points 10 months ago

and different walled gardens don't really work with other walled gardens

This is why I will only ever support open standards

[–] 1847953620 7 points 10 months ago

First genuine Too Long/ Didn't Read for me in a long time.

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[–] AgentGrimstone 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Can we please stop connecting everything together?

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[–] Clerkle 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Samsung is so damned gimmicky.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's not gimmicks. It's tracking

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[–] TyGamer 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's a lot cheaper to install one sensor per door than it is to install a motor for every moving compartment and a sensor to see if it needs to be closed and that's just to make sure every door can be closed. A lot of extra circuitry for something they can just do on the cheap.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Doors can be designed to close by slightly angling the hinges which could be cheaper than a cloud based alarm connected to a smartphone.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

It's, uh, supervised learning.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Why remove the shit from internet of shit?

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[–] banneryear1868 9 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Still haven't gotten in to the smart home stuff. Friends who enjoy it as a hobby and self host I can see the fun in it. The consumer stuff just seems like it tells you stuff that doesn't really matter, or it's controlling lights on voice command which is cool I guess, but it's not as good as a self-contained switch with instant feedback.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Samsung dont want a lawsuit from their fridge closing on a kids head or something, but they also dont want to i stall sensors to prevent this

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[–] bappity 8 points 10 months ago

they made a lazy smart fridge, work smarter not harder

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

For what it’s worth, I wish I had this feature on my garage fridge. It’s getting older and sometimes the door just doesn’t close all the way. Because of the way my house is laid out, you can only hear the beep if you’re in the kitchen (and even then it’s not very clear) so it might sit open for hours before being noticed. Granted, this feature is definitely not worth buying a smart fridge and I probably wouldn’t want one in my garage, but I wish I had something to fix that problem.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Clean the mating surfaces, that should help

And if necessary you may need to replace the rubber seal

It's usually a pretty cheap and easy fix

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