So Ukraine, hear me out... Eliminate Trump and Putin during the negotiations, blame it on someone else. Everyone will thank you, and we'll get over it.
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I'm sure at this point if Zelenskyy pulled out a wellrod, popped both of them and said "Slava Ukraini" there would be a round of applause.
If he does this, I'm getting Heroiam Slava tattooed on my chest.
i honestly don't think anyone would put him to trial. like suddenly everyone you know was with the president of ukraine at the time of the incident. and sure, that's not what questions the ICC would be asking, but that's what we'd all be saying
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Downside is you'll have JD Vance as president. Unsure that'll be any better.
Vance has a brain, which is both scarier and more reassuring at the same time.
Vance has no political capital like Trump. He doesn't have a cult he can use to threaten to primary people. Once Trump is gone all of this loses momentum.
Will be interesting to watch the power vacuum when Trump dies. It will be a great opportunity for the democrats to make progress. I’m sure they’ll find a way to fuck that up too.
I'm not sure anybody would rally behind him. He had the lowest likability score of any VP pick since 2000 - even below Sarah "I Can See Russia From My House!" Palin.
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You'll have millions/billions of people willing to be your alibi. "According to people calling in, Zelensky was at 300,000 bars, sleeping on 1,250,000 couches, and attending 13 Bar Mitvahs that night, so he couldn't have killed Trump and Putin."
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Ukraine HAD a deal with Russia ensuring its peace and its borders. It was called the Budapest Memorandum. Russia was the one violating the deal Russia had agreed to.
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This is literally all the “anti war” arguments. George Washington should have just stopped resisting the red coats.
Washington was part of a revolution. This is an invasion. More like Russia should have just let Napoleon have it.
Sure, but that makes it entirely unrelatable to the Americans making these arguments.
Fair enough. How about this?
It’s like letting the SCARY EVIL (mysteriously suddenly nonexistent) IMMIGRANT MEXICAN CARAVAN INVADERS just come in and have the US.
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Convicted rapist says victims shouldnt fight back
“Just lay there and take it.” Is Trump’s motto
It sounds right in content and in him not knowing that lay is a transitive verb.
A WHAT-itive verb?!?
-shits out a new Executive Order-
The annoying orange should not be discussing matters he knows shit about...
But then the only things he can talk about are rape, treason, paying for sex, and shitting his pants
Dude come on. That's not true.
He also cheats at golf a lot.
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Of course he did. Trump would never stand up to a bully, he would never defend the weak against the nasty. That would take courage, but Trump has only cowardice and sycophacny for bullies.
Trump is a person who sucks up to bullies, and punches down on the bullied, through and through.
Ugh. I guess it’s starting. Anyone placing bets on how long before Trump does a complete about-face on the situation and starts running joint missions with Russia against Ukraine? I’m morbidly suspicious that might really be how things end up.
This isn't exactly a secret. Remember in the debate when he said he'd end the war, and refused to say which side he'd be on?
Trump is a little bitch. Doesn't know what being a man is, because if he did, he'd do the opposite of this.
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So president of a nation that has the motto "give me liberty or give me death" is saying this.
The people who voted for him tend to prefer "Don't tread on me" which makes it even more ironic.
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Of course the convicted felon would say that Ukraine should just lie down and let Russia grab 'em by the country.
You might not believe me but anyone can just walk into maralargo. Trump won't have you trespassed, he will offer you a cash deal to leave. Trust me, it's true. Ez money.
This is why he's having such a hard time getting Musk to leave. How do you make a problem go away when your only problem solving skill is bribery and your problem is a higher degree of wealth than your bribing power?
Fuck Trump you spineless corporate shill
America hasn't had to deal with the recieving end of Imperialism for almost 250 years. (its been on the giving end of it for the last century) America is in no position, not Trump, not Elon, not Biden, not the dude that just wants to grill. None of them are in a position to tell someone not to fight for freedom, when there is an actual threat of losing ones freedom and sovereignty. Most western countries have long forgotten what the struggle is all about because they've had their freedom for centuries.
Ukraine's fight has been going on for centuries, but 2022-Present has been the defining moment of that fight.
If you aren't going to help, shut the fuck up, and fuck off and let the rest of us handle it. Ukraine isn't going to stop fighting for its existence just because Part of America is tired and upset about superficial things like egg prices. If America isn't going to carry the torch of Liberty, there are plenty of others willing to take it from here.
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Honestly I'm more worried about the NATO 5% thing which is blatantly designed to fracture the alliance.
The number was 2%, and many didn't hit that. 5% is never going to happen and is going to be Trump's cause to pull out, mark my words. Thankfully Congress put some stops in there, but doesn't mean Trump can't fuck things up bigly.
Ukraine can schlump along with NATO sans USA, but no NATO and Ukraine is finished.
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Really? So, Mexico can take back what they lost and the USA will not resist.
“They’re saying ‘the war is tomorrow’ – this causes panic on the market and elsewhere," Zelensky, Jan 2022 in response to US warnings of imminent Russian invasion.
Zelensky didn't "choose to fight" because Russia insisted there would be no fight right up until it crossed the border. It would've been considered a sneak attack but for the US telling everyone Russia was invading for a full month in advance. There was no choice offered to Zelensky and never has been since, unless you count Russia's current stance of basically "give us all your weapons and maybe then we'll negotiate"/
if only he hadn't fought back against being prosecuted.
he'd be in prison... or on death row... and we wouldn't be in this mess---again.
Does he really believe this, or is this redirected anger because he's finally figured out that he can't, in fact, just solve it?
Probably, Putin told him to pound sand, and then OPEC basically just ignored him when collapsing oil prices was the next idea.
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~~"Trump suggests Ukraine shouldn't have fought back against Russia"~~
"Trump demostrates how little he understands about the conflict in Ukraine"
FTFY
No deal can be made with Putin when the ruthless conquest of rebuilding a Russian empire is Putin's goal.
This just confirms that Zelenskyy has a way bigger ball count than Trump by two.
Trump is a malignant narcissist, and I'm pretty sure that's a requirement to have that opinion.
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