brucethemoose

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[–] brucethemoose 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, keep saying the message was the problem...

It was the delivery. It wouldn't matter if the Democrats struck up the most revolutionary, amazing, appealing set up policies known to man and Republicans promised to randomly shoot people. The message is not getting there because it's all filtered through influencers and algorithmic feeds people actually pay attention to now. No one (in the US, on average) is reading this Guardian article, or watching cable news, or listening to what their union or neighbors say, or whatever.

Mark my words, Democrats are going to stay on the high horse and lose the next election, no matter how progressive the next candidate is or how much Trump messes up, unless they get into the mud with the propaganda game.

[–] brucethemoose 19 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Playing devil's advocate, is there a plausible explanation for this?

It does look like he's rubbing his gums, and there's not a lot of reasons to do that...

[–] brucethemoose 46 points 1 day ago (18 children)

How does he use IG?

Assuming its not a parody.

[–] brucethemoose 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I feel like they are dropping the ball in the GPU space though, both on desktop and in servers.

They'renot really leveraging it. They killed the steam deck line of "small core count, GPU heavy APUs" which is why Valve hasn't updated it and competitors seem so power hungry. They all but killed server APUs, making them mega expensive and HPC only. They're finally coming out with a M-Pro like consumer APU, but it took until 2025, and pricing will probably be a joke just like their Radeon Pro GPUs...

And I don't even wanna get into the AI space. They get like 99% there and then go "nah, we don't really care about this market, let Nvidia have their monopoly and screw everyone over." It makes me want to pull my hair out.

[–] brucethemoose 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

With the only saving grace being that he's actually like a hesitant coyote not big enough to take a combined Europe, but with a bomb strapped to its chest.

[–] brucethemoose 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My take is they should be fighting the corporate API vs open source models war, instead of just "screw all AI" which really means "screw open source AI and let Sam Altman enshittify everything"

Especially on Lemmy.

It'd be like blanket railing against social media and ultimately getting the Fediverse banned, while Facebook and X walk away.

[–] brucethemoose 4 points 1 day ago

Perplexity (or open source equivalents) are much better for this.

[–] brucethemoose 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, well, this is what everyone thought in Georgia, and Ukraine in 2014.

He's not going to change. His chosen successor probably won't either.

[–] brucethemoose 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

We also knew exactly who Trump is. We have a very long history.

I particularly love stuff about him before he was in politics, like the Motley Fool podcast on how he duped public investors for his private company through pumping up real estate values. They went to his office, saw this weird array of gaudy decoration and oddly attractive employees, sat down with him, and saw through his lie. Then made the only short in their firm's entire history... and it paid off.

There's no excuse of bias. You can't blame any politicians. It's just him. And while not perfect by any means, you have to squint hard to see Kamala in the same light.

[–] brucethemoose 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Last time bothering you! I used to be really into the GAN space myself, but the newer diffusion models really blow them away. Check this out: https://github.com/mit-han-lab/nunchaku

This can squeeze Flux 1D onto your 3080, and (with the right pipeline/settings) it should blow anything else away at "enhancing" a low res image with img2img. It should also work with batching and torch.compile so you can get quite a lot of throughput from your 3080. Of course, there's no temporal consistency yet (or it may be, it's hard to keep up with all the adapter releases), but I'm sure its coming... And you can kinda hack some in with 2D models anyway.

[–] brucethemoose 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Pick up a 3090 if you can!

Then you can combine it with your 3080 and squeeze Qwen 72B in, and straight up beat GPT-4 in some use cases.

Also, TabbyAPI can be tricky to set up, ping me if you need help.

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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by brucethemoose to c/selfhosted
 

I see a lot of talk of Ollama here, which I personally don't like because:

  • The quantizations they use tend to be suboptimal

  • It abstracts away llama.cpp in a way that, frankly, leaves a lot of performance and quality on the table.

  • It abstracts away things that you should really know for hosting LLMs.

  • I don't like some things about the devs. I won't rant, but I especially don't like the hint they're cooking up something commercial.

So, here's a quick guide to get away from Ollama.

  • First step is to pick your OS. Windows is fine, but if setting up something new, linux is best. I favor CachyOS in particular, for its great python performance. If you use Windows, be sure to enable hardware accelerated scheduling and disable shared memory.

  • Ensure the latest version of CUDA (or ROCm, if using AMD) is installed. Linux is great for this, as many distros package them for you.

  • Install Python 3.11.x, 3.12.x, or at least whatever your distro supports, and git. If on linux, also install your distro's "build tools" package.

Now for actually installing the runtime. There are a great number of inference engines supporting different quantizations, forgive the Reddit link but see: https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1fg3jgr/a_large_table_of_inference_engines_and_supported/

As far as I am concerned, 3 matter to "home" hosters on consumer GPUs:

  • Exllama (and by extension TabbyAPI), as a very fast, very memory efficient "GPU only" runtime, supports AMD via ROCM and Nvidia via CUDA: https://github.com/theroyallab/tabbyAPI

  • Aphrodite Engine. While not strictly as vram efficient, its much faster with parallel API calls, reasonably efficient at very short context, and supports just about every quantization under the sun and more exotic models than exllama. AMD/Nvidia only: https://github.com/PygmalionAI/Aphrodite-engine

  • This fork of kobold.cpp, which supports more fine grained kv cache quantization (we will get to that). It supports CPU offloading and I think Apple Metal: https://github.com/Nexesenex/croco.cpp

Now, there are also reasons I don't like llama.cpp, but one of the big ones is that sometimes its model implementations have... quality degrading issues, or odd bugs. Hence I would generally recommend TabbyAPI if you have enough vram to avoid offloading to CPU, and can figure out how to set it up. So:

This can go wrong, if anyone gets stuck I can help with that.

  • Next, figure out how much VRAM you have.

  • Figure out how much "context" you want, aka how much text the llm can ingest. If a models has a context length of, say, "8K" that means it can support 8K tokens as input, or less than 8K words. Not all tokenizers are the same, some like Qwen 2.5's can fit nearly a word per token, while others are more in the ballpark of half a work per token or less.

  • Keep in mind that the actual context length of many models is an outright lie, see: https://github.com/hsiehjackson/RULER

  • Exllama has a feature called "kv cache quantization" that can dramatically shrink the VRAM the "context" of an LLM takes up. Unlike llama.cpp, it's Q4 cache is basically lossless, and on a model like Command-R, an 80K+ context can take up less than 4GB! Its essential to enable Q4 or Q6 cache to squeeze in as much LLM as you can into your GPU.

  • With that in mind, you can search huggingface for your desired model. Since we are using tabbyAPI, we want to search for "exl2" quantizations: https://huggingface.co/models?sort=modified&search=exl2

  • There are all sorts of finetunes... and a lot of straight-up garbage. But I will post some general recommendations based on total vram:

  • 4GB: A very small quantization of Qwen 2.5 7B. Or maybe Llama 3B.

  • 6GB: IMO llama 3.1 8B is best here. There are many finetunes of this depending on what you want (horny chat, tool usage, math, whatever). For coding, I would recommend Qwen 7B coder instead: https://huggingface.co/models?sort=trending&search=qwen+7b+exl2

  • 8GB-12GB Qwen 2.5 14B is king! Unlike it's 7B counterpart, I find the 14B version of the model incredible for its size, and it will squeeze into this vram pool (albeit with very short context/tight quantization for the 8GB cards). I would recommend trying Arcee's new distillation in particular: https://huggingface.co/bartowski/SuperNova-Medius-exl2

  • 16GB: Mistral 22B, Mistral Coder 22B, and very tight quantizations of Qwen 2.5 34B are possible. Honorable mention goes to InternLM 2.5 20B, which is alright even at 128K context.

  • 20GB-24GB: Command-R 2024 35B is excellent for "in context" work, like asking questions about long documents, continuing long stories, anything involving working "with" the text you feed to an LLM rather than pulling from it's internal knowledge pool. It's also quite goot at longer contexts, out to 64K-80K more-or-less, all of which fits in 24GB. Otherwise, stick to Qwen 2.5 34B, which still has a very respectable 32K native context, and a rather mediocre 64K "extended" context via YaRN: https://huggingface.co/DrNicefellow/Qwen2.5-32B-Instruct-4.25bpw-exl2

  • 32GB, same as 24GB, just with a higher bpw quantization. But this is also the threshold were lower bpw quantizations of Qwen 2.5 72B (at short context) start to make sense.

  • 48GB: Llama 3.1 70B (for longer context) or Qwen 2.5 72B (for 32K context or less)

Again, browse huggingface and pick an exl2 quantization that will cleanly fill your vram pool + the amount of context you want to specify in TabbyAPI. Many quantizers such as bartowski will list how much space they take up, but you can also just look at the available filesize.

  • Now... you have to download the model. Bartowski has instructions here, but I prefer to use this nifty standalone tool instead: https://github.com/bodaay/HuggingFaceModelDownloader

  • Put it in your TabbyAPI models folder, and follow the documentation on the wiki.

  • There are a lot of options. Some to keep in mind are chunk_size (higher than 2048 will process long contexts faster but take up lots of vram, less will save a little vram), cache_mode (use Q4 for long context, Q6/Q8 for short context if you have room), max_seq_len (this is your context length), tensor_parallel (for faster inference with 2 identical GPUs), and max_batch_size (parallel processing if you have multiple user hitting the tabbyAPI server, but more vram usage)

  • Now... pick your frontend. The tabbyAPI wiki has a good compliation of community projects, but Open Web UI is very popular right now: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui I personally use exui: https://github.com/turboderp/exui

  • And be careful with your sampling settings when using LLMs. Different models behave differently, but one of the most common mistakes people make is using "old" sampling parameters for new models. In general, keep temperature very low (<0.1, or even zero) and rep penalty low (1.01?) unless you need long, creative responses. If available in your UI, enable DRY sampling to tamp down repition without "dumbing down" the model with too much temperature or repitition penalty. Always use a MinP of 0.05 or higher and disable other samplers. This is especially important for Chinese models like Qwen, as MinP cuts out "wrong language" answers from the response.

  • Now, once this is all setup and running, I'd recommend throttling your GPU, as it simply doesn't need its full core speed to maximize its inference speed while generating. For my 3090, I use something like sudo nvidia-smi -pl 290, which throttles it down from 420W to 290W.

Sorry for the wall of text! I can keep going, discussing kobold.cpp/llama.cpp, Aphrodite, exotic quantization and other niches like that if anyone is interested.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19925986

https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen25-66e81a666513e518adb90d9e

Qwen 2.5 0.5B, 1.5B, 3B, 7B, 14B, 32B, and 72B just came out, with some variants in some sizes just for math or coding, and base models too.

All Apache licensed, all 128K context, and the 128K seems legit (unlike Mistral).

And it's pretty sick, with a tokenizer that's more efficient than Mistral's or Cohere's and benchmark scores even better than llama 3.1 or mistral in similar sizes, especially with newer metrics like MMLU-Pro and GPQA.

I am running 34B locally, and it seems super smart!

As long as the benchmarks aren't straight up lies/trained, this is massive, and just made a whole bunch of models obsolete.

Get usable quants here:

GGUF: https://huggingface.co/bartowski?search_models=qwen2.5

EXL2: https://huggingface.co/models?sort=modified&search=exl2+qwen2.5

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by brucethemoose to c/[email protected]
 

https://huggingface.co/collections/Qwen/qwen25-66e81a666513e518adb90d9e

Qwen 2.5 0.5B, 1.5B, 3B, 7B, 14B, 32B, and 72B just came out, with some variants in some sizes just for math or coding, and base models too.

All Apache licensed, all 128K context, and the 128K seems legit (unlike Mistral).

And it's pretty sick, with a tokenizer that's more efficient than Mistral's or Cohere's and benchmark scores even better than llama 3.1 or mistral in similar sizes, especially with newer metrics like MMLU-Pro and GPQA.

I am running 34B locally, and it seems super smart!

As long as the benchmarks aren't straight up lies/trained, this is massive, and just made a whole bunch of models obsolete.

Get usable quants here:

GGUF: https://huggingface.co/bartowski?search_models=qwen2.5

EXL2: https://huggingface.co/models?sort=modified&search=exl2+qwen2.5

 

Obviously there's not a lot of love for OpenAI and other corporate API generative AI here, but how does the community feel about self hosted models? Especially stuff like the Linux Foundation's Open Model Initiative?

I feel like a lot of people just don't know there are Apache/CC-BY-NC licensed "AI" they can run on sane desktops, right now, that are incredible. I'm thinking of the most recent Command-R, specifically. I can run it on one GPU, and it blows expensive API models away, and it's mine to use.

And there are efforts to kill the power cost of inference and training with stuff like matrix-multiplication free models, open source and legally licensed datasets, cheap training... and OpenAI and such want to shut down all of this because it breaks their monopoly, where they can just outspend everyone scaling , stealiing data and destroying the planet. And it's actually a threat to them.

Again, I feel like corporate social media vs fediverse is a good anology, where one is kinda destroying the planet and the other, while still niche, problematic and a WIP, kills a lot of the downsides.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/19242887

I can run the full 131K context with a 3.75bpw quantization, and still a very long one at 4bpw. And it should barely be fine-tunable in unsloth as well.

It's pretty much perfect! Unlike the last iteration, they're using very aggressive GQA, which makes the context small, and it feels really smart at long context stuff like storytelling, RAG, document analysis and things like that (whereas Gemma 27B and Mistral Code 22B are probably better suited to short chats/code).

 

I can run full 131K context with a 3.75bpw quantization, and still a very long one at 4bpw. And it should barely be fine-tunable in unsloth as well.

It's pretty much perfect! Unlike the last iteration, they're using very aggressive GQA, which makes the context small, and it feels really smart at long context stuff like storytelling, RAG, document analysis and things like that (whereas Gemma 27B and Mistral Code 22B are probably better suited to short chats/code).

 

Senior U.S., Qatari, Egyptian and Israeli officials will meet on Thursday under intense pressure to reach a breakthrough on the Gaza hostage and ceasefire deal.

he heads of the Israeli security and intelligence services told Netanyahu at the meeting on Wednesday that time is running out to reach a deal and emphasized that delay and insistence on certain positions in the negotiations could cost the lives of hostages, a senior Israeli official said.

 

HP is apparently testing these upcoming APUs in a single, 8-core configuration.

The Geekbench 5 ST score is around 2100, which is crazy... but not what I really care about. Strix Halo will have a 256 -bit memory bus and 40 CUs, which will make it a monster for local LLM inference.

I am praying AMD sells these things in embedded motherboards with a 128GB+ memory config. Especially in an 8-core config, as I'd rather not burn money and TDP on a 16 core version.

 

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/16629163

Supposedly for petty personal reasons:

The woman who controls the company, Shari Redstone, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last week as she scuttled a planned merger with David Ellison's Skydance Media.

Redstone had spent six months negotiating a complicated deal that would have given control of Paramount to Ellison and RedBird Capital, only to call it off as it neared the finish line.

The chief reason for her decision: Her reluctance to let go of a family heirloom she fought very hard to get.

I cross posted this from c/Avatar, but I am a Trekkie too and don't like this one bit.

FYI previous articles seemed to imply the Sony deal is dead.

 

Supposedly for petty personal reasons:

The woman who controls the company, Shari Redstone, snatched defeat from the jaws of victory last week as she scuttled a planned merger with David Ellison's Skydance Media.

Redstone had spent six months negotiating a complicated deal that would have given control of Paramount to Ellison and RedBird Capital, only to call it off as it neared the finish line.

The chief reason for her decision: Her reluctance to let go of a family heirloom she fought very hard to get.

The fandom doesn't want to talk about it, but the Avatar franchise is in trouble.

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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by brucethemoose to c/avatar
 

Avatar Studios seems to be part of Paramount Media, aka the "pay television channels" that I assume Sony is not interested in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_Global

And in light of this article: https://deadline.com/2024/05/paramount-sale-hollywood-studio-takeover-history-lessons-1235910245/

That doesn't look good for Avatar Studios. If they are left behind in a Sony sale, it seems the probability of them getting shut down (or just going down with whatever is left of Paramount) is very high.

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