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Trump announced plans to end birthright citizenship via executive action, despite its constitutional basis in the 14th Amendment.

He also outlined a mass deportation policy, starting with undocumented immigrants who committed crimes and potentially expanding to mixed-status families, who could face deportation as a unit.

Trump said he wants to avoid family separations but left the decision to families.

While doubling down on immigration restrictions, Trump expressed willingness to work with Democrats to create protections for Dreamers under DACA, citing their long-standing integration into U.S. society.

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[–] LordWiggle 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What about his birthright citizenship? His family came to the Americas as immigrants too.

[–] ours 9 points 1 day ago

Classic "Got mine, fuck you".

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't mean white people, silly.

[–] LordWiggle 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] humorlessrepost 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He doesn’t mean the denizens of Loompaland either. They’re the good Africans.

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[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His mother was from Scotland. Also, all of his kids except Tiffany should be denied birthright citizenship, right?

[–] LordWiggle 3 points 1 day ago

And his wife, and her parents 😂

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 days ago (1 children)

does that include melania and elon?

[–] auzy 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No

In other news, 34 criminal convictions by a unanimous jury (which is near impossible to win) doesn't make you a criminal either apparently. You're only a criminal if you're related to Biden (and don't worry, revenge porn by Marjorie is perfectly ok too)

You could bring down the average conviction rate in the US simply by deporting Trump

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] DeadWorldWalking 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When Republicans say deport 5% of the population what they mean is put them in camps until they die because there's no way they could process all that paperwork

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Even if they could process all that paperwork, those countries have to want those people back. You can't just land a bunch of C-130s full of people in Guatemala City and dump them onto the tarmac. That's not how anything works.

So even if somehow they knew where every single person in those camps is "supposed" to go, many of them would stay there indefinitely anyway. Until, I guess, they come up with a Final Solution for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if they were born in America then there is no other country for them to go to

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[–] Sam_Bass 184 points 3 days ago (16 children)
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[–] cultsuperstar 34 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So is he going to stop renting his penthouses in Florida to Russians so they can have babies here to be US citizens? Or does his plan only affect brown people?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 17 points 2 days ago

This is libelous. The Russian penthouses are in NYC.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Just the browns.

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[–] finitebanjo 54 points 3 days ago (5 children)

It's never going to stop surprising me when a politician says he's going to do something, I tell people, and then he does it but so many people were still caught completely off guard. I imagine this is how many in the UK feel about Brexit.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's unreal. Days after the election, people I work with were saying that Project 2025 was just propaganda and that he's not actually going to do all the stuff he said he would do.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

That's my mother to a T. She defends all the batshit stuff he spews by saying it's just a negotiating tactic to get to some "reasonable" compromise. Which may well be true, but it doesn't change the fact that his opening bid is always something batshit insane and/or cruel, and that he would happily go through with it, if he were allowed to.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago

For real Brexit was a stunning result. I just remember this post results interview with same randoms about it and one of the yes voters was like "yea I just through it was never going to happen and voted yes as a laugh."

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[–] UncleJosh 76 points 3 days ago (6 children)

My 86-year old mother is house-bound but she is the daughter of two immigrants who came over in the 1910's, so I guess she's gonna be shipped off to another country. I have no idea if my brother and I, both in our 50's would be subjected to deportation considering we haven't lived with her in over 30 years.

Maybe the US shouldn't have elected an out-and-out racist asshole.

[–] DacoTaco 9 points 2 days ago

Congrats, nearly everyone in the written history of america are immigrants. Anyone after the declaration ? Gone! Immigrants from first and second world war? Gone! Good old usa! ( /s incase its not obvious)

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[–] Rapidcreek 144 points 3 days ago (18 children)

14th Amendment to the US Constitution

Section 1

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

[–] NocturnalMorning 114 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's there, but as we've clearly seen, if the law isn't enforced, or is selectively enforced, it might as well not exist.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Start by getting rid of Ted Cruz, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, Melania and all the Trump kids.

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 3 days ago (3 children)

i wish everyone would get rid of the assumption that the constitution will protect you

"that's unconstitutional!!!" doesn't mean jack shit anymore

[–] [email protected] 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Every maga is downplaying his shit right now. “Not gonna happen” is what they all say.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (6 children)

This would be huge. Much like Europe, America's population will decline. You need immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Immigrants are the heart and soul of this country. I can't even imagine wanting to live in whatever milquetoast, boring-ass, white bread America that these idiots want.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

They want it to look like 1950s propaganda, but work like feudalism.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago (15 children)

Not sure how he plans on deporting people who were born in the United States and have no citizenship anywhere else since not every country automatically gives it to people's children born abroad.

They would effectively have no home country to deport them too.

[–] FlyingSquid 73 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Meaning they will stay in the concentration camps until Trump's Final Solution is implemented.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You are missing out on a key component of their plan: concentration camps.

He has outright said that he plans on using the same law that was used to justify the internment of Japanese citizens during WW2.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/texas-land-trump-mass-deportation-b2650813.html

https://www.salon.com/2024/10/11/theyre-animals-vows-mass-deportation-under-law-used-to-justify-japanese-internment-camps/

Literal concentration camps are coming.

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[–] rational_lib 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

"Doesn't the 14th Amendment pose a problem for that plan?"
"Not a problem, no one handles amendments like me. 14 amendments is nothing, when I...when I do the Christ stuff before food I do 15, 30, 100 amendments. And people say 'Wow, you are so good with the amendments, no one does the amendments like you.' So I got that all taken care of."

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Deport them to where even mexico doesn’t want US Mexican Americans in their territory unless they get dual citizenship. He will need 2/3 votes of senate and the house to amend the US constitution. Orange man dumb asf!

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 1 day ago

This isn't stupidity, this is inhumanity. They don't care if other countries don't want them once they have their concentration camps.

[–] MyRobotShitsBolts 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He doesn't need shit. Stop assuming the law matters anymore.

[–] Iheartcheese 9 points 2 days ago

SURELY THIS TIME THE LAW WILL APPLY TO TRUMP!!1

[–] HurlingDurling 4 points 2 days ago

Mexico said that if you are an American born of Mexican parents they'll give you your Mexican citizenship.

[–] Diplomjodler3 59 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Anyone in the US who believes they have any sort of legal protection is just delusional. The only protection that exists there is through money.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

What I'm reading is that they want to deport Americans in "mixed status families", and then go after them as criminals when they don't just continue paying taxes and fulfilling the ridiculous reporting requirements as they try to resettle their life in a new home and the US demands that their new local residence actually be treated as foreign assets. Which is great for the rich, because it basically saturates the system in such a way that the focus is taken away from rich tax evaders and tax avoidance schemes as it is driven to deal with these new "criminals".

Ending birthright citizenship would lead to a lot of relief from the people leaving the US who are seeking renunciation - except I have a feeling that greed and the aforementioned reasons are going to find a way to still make them have to seek it.

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