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This is what I thought as well.
If I picked Hitler (because that's the mandatory first choice) I'd be preventing WW2, which my Grandpa fought in. That would definitely affect my existence in some way.
I feel like Trump's influence between his birth and mine wouldn't have a direct impact on my parents' actions.
Then you find out you were conceived in a trump hotel.
Even if that were true, I doubt my parents would've chosen it because it was a trump hotel. If it were any other hotel, they probably would've still chosen it for the same reasons they originally did.
I don't think you realize how little would have to change for you to not be born. There were millions of sperm cells churning in your daddy's balls. Millions of alternate instruction sets to contribute to one half of a whole person. A two-minute delay, a sneeze, the thermostat being off by a single degree could have led to the birth of a completely different person.
Oh shit! After flying in with Trump air and having Trump steak.
Someone in the comments said if you kill somebody you also kill any children they might have. I’m going to second your motion.
It's been discussed here much better than I could, but I concur with, you pretty much can't.
The slightest change would cause ripple effects that would affect almost everything.
Everyone always gravitates to the big names... Hitler, Trump, Elmo.. But even the most possible mundane person, such as an Inuit baby born to parents in the remotest part of the Arctic 200 years ago, would be enough to cause changes that could easily keep you from being born.
Time travellers don't go after Elmo, for a reason
I mean removing someone who was born in between when your parents got together and when you were born would be fairlu safe. The odds that some random baby's absence in those months/years that they're together but not pregnant is not impossible, but pretty slim.
If you can pick any time and place pick a random person in bumfuck middle of no where in Mongolia 1 day before you were born or even when your parents sexed that led to you would be fine. Unless you live in Mongolia
Trump’s impact is recent enough it probably wouldn’t make me unborn. There’s a good chance removing Hitler would change things though.
I remove Charles Sawell. Terrible President.
Do I have to ensure I'm still born? If not, I choose the last common ancestor of modern humans. We've screwed things up enough that I think the world would clearly be better off without us.
Sure, yeah. How would you know it worked though?
I wouldn't, but I would know if it didn't work and that's pretty much the same thing.
My birthgiver than, I'm doing it intentionally
without inadvertently making it so you were never born?
I dunno, getting rid of the My Pillow guy might be worth it anyway.
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I remove a bee that stung one of the young parents of the man that disabled me altering the parent's biology and life just enough to alter which sperm is successful or cycle they are in effectively removing him from the timeline of a miserable life as a political refugee while having the cognitive capacity of a third grader. I stop his long line of destruction from living in a place where driving is required to survive, and there is no viable alternative for those that lack sufficient capability to perform the task. It is impossible for most of us to comprehend what a first generation driver is really like when we were born into driving culture. Some people were not, and their logic can lack a fundamental grounding that we take for granted.
According to my interpretation of chaos theory, virtually any change can cause you to not be born. Even if just considering the butterfly effect for weather: a few weeks or months after the change, the weather in the new timeline will completely diverge from the old timeline worldwide, and this will affect your parents'/ancestors' behavior enough to change which genes get passed on, if they even still make a baby. And that's only the weather, there's a lot more chaos in the world.
The only exception is if the change happens just a short amount of time before you're conceived, and far enough away. Then I can believe that it could work. But it would still affect your entire life, which might be subtly or totally different from your life in the original timeline.
All that out of the way, there are quite a few politicians and billionaires I'd like to nominate. Too many to list.
The mathematical definition of a chaotic system is that you can find two paths that will eventually diverge to be arbitrarily different. But eventually is a keyword. Two very similar paths can and will progress very similarly for a long time.
It's impossible to know how long such a change will take to diverge. I guess my weeks/months estimate is baseless, I'll grant you that. But some changes will have faster effects than others.
For example, if you remove a very famous person or someone from royalty, it will change the news cycle, which millions of people read all over the place. Each person who reads or would have read the news about it would have their life slightly altered, so this one change causes millions of differences over a large area. With so many changes, it's likely that one of them will turn out more significant.
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I wouldn't. But if I absolutely had to, I'd try to find the shittiest person I could, born as close to when I was as possible, and as far away from me as they could be.
I'll punch that fish trying to get out of the water. That will teach him.
Define "from before I was born".
Does that mean, "born before I was" or "died before I was born"?
I believe what I mean is, "was alive before you were born"
That does not answer the question. Did the person have to die before you were born or not? "Was" implies that they have to have died, but this could be a language barrier thing.
It's not meant to be restrictive. They can be alive today. They just can't be born after you were born.
The only way to guarantee that you don't cause a paradox is to not use the power at all.
There's a nine-month window that should be pretty safe.
Nope, you need to use the power to fix the timeline!
Do you have to use the power so you were still born?
Nah. I just think you would want to.
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But why?
Just to confirm, i guess. Otherwise I could convince myself ending my life would make everyone else's life better, today, and do it while feeling good about the decision.
Name: Adrian Colebrook
Date of Birth: September 22, 1981
Reason: He knows what he did.
I don't have anyone I'd want to remove and I'm also not so naive to think it wouldn't come with major unpredictable consequences.
Do I have to remove their entire life or can I pick a point in time in their life where they are alive, but the next moment suddenly go poof and vanish into thin air?
All the butterfly theory and chaos theory and other such things aside, as messed up as it sounds, probably go back in time to the week before I'm born and find some newborn baby from the 3rd world country who won't make it more than a few days and remove them. They weren't gonna live long anyways. Again, messed up, but probably ensures I wouldn't inadvertently make myself never born.
Well, regardless of who you remove, you can't change the original timeline. That original timeline will just keep trucking along as usual. What WILL happen is that a new timeline will branch off; one in which said person no longer exists. But you would never see it unless you travelled back in time and affected the change personally; meaning you're now in that timeline; an active part of it, and thus never able to return to your original. If you travel forward again, you're still in the new timeline. If you travel back, you create yet another new timeline; once in which the wave function collapsed to show that you travelled back in time.
It's a wave function collapse. We live in a universe where that wave function collapsed to say said person existed. If we blink them out of existence, we're essentially re-opening the box, which creates a new tangent. But that original collapse still exists. It happened; it's immutable.
Re-rolling a dice doesn't change the fact that it's already been rolled before.
Weirdly enough, the best example of that is ironically the season three episode of Community called "Remedial Chaos Theory"
This power allows you to change the original timeline.
I would take out that time-travelling trophy hunter who stepped off the path and squished a butterfly.
Jesus. Oh wait, he wasn't real. BRB
I mean you could probably still remove him from the timeline, as in remove any mention of him so that he actually doesn't exist in any context.
No screw it I'm removing myself. Only way to be rid of this insanity
Oh shit before I was born ok I guess my father for the same reason.
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