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Unpaid bills haunt Trump's Halloween rally in Albuquerque, leave campaign scrambling for venue (www.salon.com)
submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/politics
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Trump stiffed the southwestern city to the tune of half a million, complicating his return to New Mexico

Former President Donald Trump had a hard time finding a spot for his Halloween rally in Albuquerque, New Mexico rally, as unpaid bills came back to haunt his campaign.

The Santa Fe New Mexican reported that the campaign’s original plans to use the Albuquerque Convention Center were dashed, due in part to an unpaid bill of nearly $445,000 from a 2019 rally.

“If you’re not going to pay your bills, we’re just not going to entertain you using city facilities, and that’s the way it should be,” Albuquerque mayor Tim Keller told the outlet.

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[–] dhork 198 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

It's worse than just not paying the bills, they're trying to pass off the costs to the Federal Government.

The Trump campaign claimed in a statement to Public Integrity last year that it was not responsible for the costs to cities, arguing that "all billing inquiries should go to the Secret Service." But Secret Service officials said they "receive no funding from Congress to reimburse municipal governments for the local public safety protection they request," according to the report.

I have always failed to see why people view Donald Trump as anything other than a con man.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago

Because of racism.

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

- Lyndon Johnson

[–] Zombiepirate 36 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I have always failed to see why people view Donald Trump as anything other than a con man.

They're either rubes who are indoctrinated into the reactionary cinematic universe or grifters who pretend he's authentic to exploit the gullible.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, the producers of The Apprentice, who made him look successful, even when he was nearly bankrupt, deserve a lot more of the blame than they’ve been given so far.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

That's exactly what Trump is. A bottom feeder of such exquisite lack of morals that he absorbs blame. So much blame should be put on so many other agencies, people, etc but because Trump runs around providing news agencies with enough rage bait.

[–] samus12345 7 points 3 weeks ago

I have always failed to see why people view Donald Trump as anything other than a con man.

Rubes don't see con men for what they are.

[–] [email protected] 132 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

For a billionaire, he sure asks for a lot of handouts.

[–] neanderthal 55 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

455,000 is 0.0455% of 1,000,000,000. Not a big deal to someone with allegedly multiple billions.

I'm creeping up an a million net worth. That is like me trying to stiff someone for 455 dollars. An unexpected 455 dollar expense is a tiny bit annoying. This wasn't even an unexpected expense. This is like me stiffing the guy I paid to power wash my house and complaining he won't come back next time. The city should sue. 455k is worth the lawsuit in my opinion. Plus damages since the cost likely prevented the city from doing other important things.

This is bigly sad.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago

Mark Cuban has been addressing this with logic. You only sell gold sneakers and shitty coins when you need the money.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

At this point I really think that he does need all the cash he can find.

That said, even when he was still flush he was notorious for stiffing the little guy.

He's hated in Atlantic City because he ripped off so many small businesses.

It's him playing mobster; the Mafia never pays for anything, so why should he?

[–] dhork 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The city should have sued on Jan 21, 2020. If they sue now, and Trump wins the election, they would never see a dime because the SC would make sure to squash all lawsuits. Selling it to a debt collector was probably the best move for them. They only see a fraction of what they are owes, but its better than nothing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What debt collector would be stupid enough to try and get repayment from Trump.

[–] Buddahriffic 4 points 3 weeks ago

I'd watch that episode of dog the bounty hunter. Though I'd probably go in to it expecting disappointment.

Alternatively, they could put a lien on his properties.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Billionaires are the biggest "welfare queens" out there. Everything they have is stolen or a handout.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"I'll just do fuck all and charge everyone alive for it", that's the billionaire way

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 4 points 3 weeks ago

That's how they get their billions.

And lots of creative theft.

[–] IchNichtenLichten 53 points 3 weeks ago

Just throw it on the pile labelled "this should be disqualifying for a presidential candidate but it apparently isn't, Jesus shitting christ I don't even know what's going on any more."

[–] LEDZeppelin 39 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Was Four Seasons Dildo Shop not available?

[–] homesweethomeMrL 3 points 3 weeks ago

Hi-oooooooo!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Literally everything he touches turns to shit. He's got the anus touch.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago

He's got that Mierdas Touch.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago

So couldn’t this successful, stable businessman not just pay that bill? Hmm

[–] slingstone 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Shouldn't Donnie T. just be able to cut them a check since he's so fabulously wealthy? I mean, he says he's ultra rich and the best businessman ever, so this ought to be something he can just immediately address, right?

[–] RagingRobot 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wouldn't trust that check. Cash or money order only

[–] IphtashuFitz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Personally I wouldn’t trust any sort of payment from that guy. I’d accept payment but still refuse new business from him until about 6 weeks after payment is received. That should provide ample time to verify the check doesn’t bounce, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

That would be a fat stack of money orders

[–] Burn_The_Right 18 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

No sympathy for suckers who don't bill Trump up front. None. They knew what this was.

[–] Kbobabob 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait, do you think the venue wants sympathy?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m pretty sure the venue is keeping that bill open specifically so that Trump can never return.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

They could close the bill and still refuse another convention on the same grounds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think they did know necessarily.

You would just expect a presidential campaign to pay. It's not like Trump pays from his own pocket.

Also, they didn't give Trump a free pass.

[–] just_another_person 16 points 3 weeks ago

FINALLY. I hope he gets sued into oblivion after all this bullshit.

[–] LovableSidekick 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don't know why anybody still rents venues to this deadbeat unless they're drinking his koolaid or expect concessions to make up his unpaid bill.

[–] Professorozone 7 points 3 weeks ago

Finally. I was wondering if/when this might happen.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

This is why he doesn't want to run again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I hope this means he won't have the means to do another attempt.