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Abravnel's pictures show two bearded men wearing sunglasses and three other men wearing face coverings on board the boat. One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company. Lindell, who is a well-known Trump supporter, recently hit back against claims that his product pricing was inadvertently linked to neo-Nazi propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 324 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] pyre 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

very kind of that Nazi rally attendee to inform us

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[–] [email protected] 145 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Newsweek was unable to independently verify at the time of publication whether the people on the boat were from the antifa movement.

Oh, fuck off. I'm unable to independently verify whether the people on the boat were Newsweek employees.

[–] tootoughtoremember 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So they did publish the name of a Neo-Nazi identified on the boat with the Nazi flags, who's the founder of a Neo-Nazi group.

But going as far as to say these known Neo-Nazis are not antifa would be too far.

Cause Neo-Nazis are so often also antifascist...

[–] pyre 9 points 2 months ago

chances are some of them were

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[–] [email protected] 117 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FL 2205 TD. I wonder who that's registered to?

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 2 months ago (13 children)

How is it that Trump followers are pro Nazis and pro Israel at the same time? Or is it because Israel is starting to follow Nazis' footsteps?

[–] xc2215x 91 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They only support Israel because they hate Muslims more.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (8 children)

And because the religious sect believes they need the Jews to bring Armageddon/the rapture.

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[–] blackbelt352 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So at the end of the day it's Dominionism amd The Book of Revalations. It's the idea that once the Jews take control of the holy land the apocalyptic prophesies in the Book of Revelations will be set into motion and God will come down from heaven and separate the 144,000 good holy people from the sinners who didn't belive in God and take them into heaven, probably rapture style.

Being Pro Israel and a conservative isn't really about caring about the history of prejudice the Jewish people have faced throughout much of history, it's about using the Jewish people as a pawn in fulfilling a ~2000 year old prophesy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Yuuuup.

I find it equal parts infuriating and hilarious... These motherfuckers want to pull some "Jesus hates this one trick!" type shit to trick their lord into appearing sooner than would "naturally" happen and they don't think the all knowing all powerful God wouldn't realize they had millions of people killed purposely for this? Their meddling and enabling is what would have that region in the state of war "required" for Armageddon...

Like what?

[–] thesporkeffect 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I believe in their view, it's presented as 'god can't come back until conditions are right, don't keep him waiting'

The answer to why god needs their help when he's all powerful is some mumbling about tests of faith and the unknowable nature of the divine

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: Kelsey Grammar (Frasier) is a proud Trump supporter and Christian who also publicly supported Roseanne Barr after she was fired from her show's reboot for tweeting that one of Obama's advisers was what happened when the "Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby".

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[–] blackbelt352 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And literally multiple times in the gospels Jesus literally says none of us will know the day or the hour of his return. And so many people take the Book of Revalations at face value rather than understanding it as more of an encoded hit piece against most likely Emperor Nero who very much ramped up persecution against the early Christians. Basically saying, this Nero guy is a piece of shit but don't lose faith.

[–] radroot 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm encouraged that this is becoming more well known

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They're different subgroups

[–] acosmichippo 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

there is that, but I think also many republicans have a weird cognitive dissonance where they're antisemitic in general, but still very pro-israel/zionist because of fundamental christianity, and/or they are even more islamaphobic than antisemitic.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's a place created as a home for jews pretty much by antisemites, with the main idea being "we're okay with jews but only if they're not in our country".

There's a lot of fascinating history about the creation of Israel by antisemites that you can find, but the gist is that zionism and antisemitism often go hand in hand, and it seems this has not really changed.

[–] CharlesDarwin 7 points 2 months ago

Some of it is rooted in xtian zionism, and it's not because they have any special regard for Jews other than as pawns for their dopey eschatological notions. They just think the Jews have to be in Israel to fulfill prophecies that involve a magical Jewish carpenter coming back (and killing most of the Jews, by the way).

[–] DarkCloud 16 points 2 months ago

They're both far-right ideologically, and it turns out the idea of "never again" to Zionists means "Never again to us"

...and the best way they believe to make sure of this, is by genociding other peoples.

[–] barsquid 12 points 2 months ago

Nazis love the idea of a single state for each group of people. They love it as a destination for deportations fulfilling their short-term bigoted plans.

Of course their long-term bigoted plans are invasion, stealing resources, and mass murder.

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A vote for Trump is a vote for Nazis. Always has been but now they’re showing faces so you know its true.

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[–] CharlesDarwin 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They wrote: "I was in the parade today. Just like on J6 [January 6], those are not Trump supporters. They were antifa scumbag imposters and were treated accordingly as you'll see in the video." Antifa is a term for far-left groups that resist facists and neo-Nazis.

LOL, they are still going with this BS for J6? Why would dementia donnie pardon a bunch of "antifa", then?

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 19 points 2 months ago

Antifa is a term for far-left groups

Antifa is a term for the monsters under conservatives' beds.

[–] Diplomjodler3 35 points 2 months ago

Yeah, all our products cost 14.88 but that's just a coincidence.

[–] Treczoks 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is amazing how open they show their colors even before the election. Maybe, just maybe some potential voters read this as a warning sign.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Unfortunately this is more likely to cement his existing support

[–] aeronmelon 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why? Are Confederate flags too passé for them now?

[–] Xeroxchasechase 23 points 2 months ago

No, they just ferl that they don't have to hide their identity anymore

[–] ours 8 points 2 months ago

No need for dog whistles anymore, they've moved on to airhornes.

[–] saltesc 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

They're Buddhists. You can tell by their flags.

These are Nazis.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (3 children)

FYI, it's not just a Buddhist symbol, but a general Asian symbol. My wife's family is Hindu—she she most of her family were born in India. My family is Jewish, we'd moved from Poland to the Americas as a result of growing antisemitism/the Holocaust.

For our wedding weekend, we printed programs that included information about each other's cultures to help our families mitigate any culture shock. Part of it was asking her family to refrain from using swastic symbols due to the negative connotation my family had associated because of Nazi appropriation. It also had notes informing my family of the history of the swastika and asking them to not be offended if they come across one. That anyone using swastic imagery is doing so out of love and is wishing peace upon us.

I realized this was a potential problem at an engagement party we'd had during Ganesh Chaturthi when the pundit drew swastikas on the Ganesha murti during their pooja. The only thing more shocking for me than seeing a house with 30+ people embrace a swastika was seeing a house with 30+ people casually embrace a swastika. (As pointed out, swastic symbols, since the direction and angle was different)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

The Swasitka shows up in a lot of places throughout history. Not just Asia.

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[–] Vieric 24 points 2 months ago

They love Neo-Nazis. What they don't love is when they get too loud or conspicuous, because it costs them PR points (sometimes). This is the only reason the right wing will ever so much as give lip service to thinking these people might be anything less than "very fine people".

[–] Fedizen 22 points 2 months ago

the boat has to have a registration usually, why not use that?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Props to the guy that soaked them. Even fascists have some standards.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not because they disagree with them, but because they accused them of being Antifa plants to make them look bad.

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[–] peopleproblems 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Someone I know who isn't me wants to know how illegal it is to go and spray paint a swastika on Trump signs or the houses/driveways with a Trump sign.

He says it would be a good idea to remind everyone of who these people are and it would be visible for a bit longer.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

IANAL but I looked into it -

In the US, political signs are considered private property so you could get arrested and charged with vandalism (if you get caught).

It's unlikely you would be charged with trespassing (since that usually requires multiple repeat offenses on the same property).

It's probably something you could beat in court as long as you don't talk to the cops during your arrest and pay good lawyers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Not legal at all, but legal and moral aren't always the same. You just have to choose to accept the consequences.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Are the Swastika flags black because they are "dark MAGA" like Elon? /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Guarantee that guy is a power bottom that simply cannot accept himself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

One of the men on board appeared to be holding an image of Mike Lindell, CEO of the My Pillow company.

Ok, I was mad until I read this and then I was full of chuckles. What a dumbass stunt and I love that this former-and-soon-to-return crackhead was inadvertently brought into the conversation.

Also, show your faces, nazi fucks. If you’re so proud, why are you hiding?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

If you’re so proud

Do you really expect consistent thinking from a bunch of neo-Nazis who named themselves after a song from Disney's Aladdin?

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[–] WrenFeathers 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Florida? Swastikas?… wait- yeah, that tracks.

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