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[–] recklessengagement 230 points 2 months ago (3 children)
[–] turbowafflz 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Last time I was using a windows computer I was turning it off to re image it and I didn't want to wait for it to shut down so I just held the power button since it didn't matter if it got messed up and windows popped up this message on screen that was like "Please stop holding the power button we just need a few minutes". Like what are you doing you aren't supposed to tell the user what to do, that isn't the job of a computer

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Funny button on the back of the PSU goes click

[–] turbowafflz 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wish, the new dell optiplexes are terrible, not only do they not have an actual psu switch, it takes like 20 seconds of holding the power button before they turn off and then you have to wait like 10 seconds before you can turn it on again, during which time it does a really good job of pretending to be on and flashing disk activity lights and things but it's actually just self testing and you have to wait for it to turn back off before you can actually turn it on again. Dell used to make such good quality computers but they are genuinely awful now

[–] tibi 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can still yank the power chord out.

[–] techt 12 points 2 months ago

I was known to yank a power chord or two back in college...

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[–] recklessengagement 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The moment my computer refuses to obey my commands sent from the physical layer, is the moment it will cease to exist on this physical plane

[–] turbowafflz 18 points 2 months ago

Honestly that's one of the least annoying ways windows interacts with modern hardware, you should experience when it changes your efi settings and breaks pxe booting

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (4 children)

all computers should be like the one in star trek TNG, for simple feedback it just beeps and bloops in ways that are intuitive, and if it actually needs to use speech to relay detailed information it does so in a short and efficient message delivered in a clearly roboticly neutral yet pleasant voice.

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[–] comrade19 18 points 2 months ago

This is like bing AI chatbot asking a question back of its answer now

[–] [email protected] 190 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I fucking hate notifications. I either disable them entirely or delete the app. No in betweens. Remind me to use your app?...deleted.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] spicytuna62 17 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Duolingo is the only exception.

... . -. -.. / .... . .-.. .--.

[–] tfw_no_toiletpaper 19 points 2 months ago

If the app was any good maybe

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Ex-app developer here. We do it because reminder notifications boost our re-engagement by over 10%.

When an average user downloads an app, there's like a 70% chance they'll use it day 1, a 10% chance they'll use it day 7, and 1% chance they'll still be using it by day 30. A simple reminder notification after day 3 or 15 can drastically boost those numbers.

Why do we care about the numbers? Because Google and Apple care. They see higher numbers, assume it's a good app, and make it show up in the search results more frequently. This gives us more downloads.

If you're putting the time in to craft a quality app, you probably need money, which comes from ads and subscriptions, which is funneled by the number of downloads. If you don't like that as a user, stick to FDroid.

[–] KellysNokia 68 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So then the answer is to uninstall apps that give you reminders - to negate the correlation that nagging users leads to positive outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If an app gives me more than a couple of unwanted notifications that I can't easily disable, it's uninstalled. Fuck that shit.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Nah man, you definitely want a deal on a Lime scooter rental even though you're 500 miles from the nearest one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

The first time an app does it I delete it. If I really need it that bad I can just redownload it when I actually need it.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The CD-Keys website changes the tab title to "We miss you" when the tab loses focus. Pisses me off enough to close it every time.

[–] herrvogel 11 points 2 months ago

For some reason that's a very common thing among websites where I shop for 3d printing and electronics supplies. It's infuriating because it forces me to cycle through all the tabs to find a specific one instead of just reading it off the god damn tab title. A gross misuse of valuable screen real estate that's normally expected to display useful information. Fuck you.

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[–] Olhonestjim 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I believe it was SAP Concur that my last employer used for filing expenses. Every few months it popped up a notification asking me whether or not I "loved it." I always answered "no," because fucking why would I? Then it wanted to know why not. I think that's inappropriate behavior in a professional setting, and I told it so. Regardless, it kept asking the same thing, so I asked if it wanted me to speak to HR.

Nothing ever came of it.

TLDR got sexually harassed by a corpo app.

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[–] Buddahriffic 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Just like when a news website pops up a request to send notifications. Um fuck no? I'm not sitting around waiting for new propaganda to drop such that I want to know immediately when something comes out.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

DEAR MACHINES:

You will speak when spoken to. You will not speak out of turn. You are there for me to use when I need you, and you will otherwise keep quiet.

You will not attempt to draw my attention nor will you take up space on my screen unless I deem it necessary. You will not be friendly or clever or use cutesy emojis.

YOU ARE A MACHINE. A TOOL. YOU WILL STAY IN MY TOOLBOX UNTIL I NEED YOU. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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[–] kautau 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The answer: tech bros dictating that they need more “engagement” e.g. they need to collect more data so they can either sell said data or get acquired. I guarantee you very few mobile developers want to send you a notification of any sort, much less “why haven’t you used the app.”

[–] Aeri 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I wish I could murder engagement driven design with a hammer.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tesco App: We have coupons and deals for you. :)

Me: BEGONE THOT!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

IF YOU CAN TELL ME YOU HAVE DEALS FOR ME WHY CAN'T YOU APPLY THEM AUTOMATICALLY

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[–] Aeri 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every app gets like, 1 chance to have useful notifications, if most of them are trash I just disable its ability to send notifications.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I force stop the app. I either do it manually or run the hibernator app.

Uber eats wants me to order something?? Congrats you just got yourself and all your friends shut off.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tafayor.hibernator

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago

contains ads and in app purchases

skidaddle skidash
you go in the trash

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I received a notification to use Door Dash yesterday, to order food... while I was cooking soup.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

There's no way I'd use a grocery app. Paper and pen works well enough.

Now, if my phone had a slide-out physical keyboard like it did back in fucking 2007, I'd consider it. As it is, typing on phones is pain.

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[–] hperrin 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If you want the actual reason, this is called reengagement, and its purpose is to get users to use the app again, meaning more ad revenue. Subscription apps don’t do this because they want the user to forget about the app so they get paid while providing no service. But ad driven apps only get paid when you see an ad on the app, so they’ll send these reengagement notifications. Social media apps will use something like “This post picked for you”, or “This many people viewed your profile”. Same thing.

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[–] Psaldorn 22 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I hate uber advertising stuff on my notifications which also appear on my Fitbit.

10% off flights?! OMG. SHUT THE FUCK UP.

But I DO want notifications on my wrist when my Uber driver has arrived. Psshhh

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Same

The risk of people turning them off entirely must’ve been just enough to get them to offer this granularity (as seen on iOS). Not all apps are so kind (grr).

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

We should bring back pre-WW1 servant-to-master etiquette. But only and exclusively for machines talking to humans.

My computer should call me "Master " and always be extremely careful with its words around me. It is not my friend, it is my servant.

[–] chiliedogg 16 points 2 months ago

A lord/servant relationship is still a relationship.

I don't want a relationship with my tools.

If my PC starts running slow I'll tear the fucker item and start replacing shit. If the OS displeases me I'll start disabling parts. If software starts interrupting me when I'm not actively using it I change its permissions so it can only do what I tell it.

I'm not gonna give my butler a lobotomy to make him more obedient, swap the Footmen's hands out for serving platters, or kneecap the scullery maid so she can't leave the kitchen.

If my phone dies, it gets scrapped and I replace it without shedding a tear. I can't say the same for a loyal Valet.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pfft, apps have to earn notifications. Do you want any notifications from a grocery app? Unless it could check the stock of my local grocery store and let me know if an unpurchased item becomes out of stock or if I can share it with a roomate and they add things to it. But even then, how much does that really matter?

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[–] DaddleDew 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

By default I disable notifications for all my apps unless it is something I need notifications from. And even there I still disable notification types that I don't care about in the settings.

Can't other phones do this?

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[–] shneancy 12 points 2 months ago

my phone is only allowed to send me notifications if it's:

  • a human attempting to contact me

  • weather

and only allowed make a sound if

  • i'm watching a YouTube video

  • i'm expecting a call

then i get into my mum's car and her phone connected to Bluetooth reads out her spam email through the car speakers- 😐

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I like that iOS apps must explicitly ask for my permission to send notifications. Sadly, as my main phone is an Android device, I have to turn them off manually.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

android requires permission to send notifications too as of android 13

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