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[–] slaacaa 238 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“Shareholders need to get comfortable not owning their yacht”

[–] [email protected] 147 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Companies need to get comfortable not owning my money!

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[–] justsomeguy 127 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I for one appreciate that ubisoft chose the top down view of poop as their logo. it's the perfect symbol for everything they represent and they're incredibly brave for wearing it proudly on their chest.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago

I thought it was symbolizing them circling the drain, at least when it comes to quality...

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 2 months ago

Looks like gamers got comfortable with not owning Ubisoft games, just like he wanted.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They could have got away still if they actually make good games

[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago

Yup. Millions subscribe to MMOs and Game Pass. Live service games like Genshin Impact and Fate/Grand Order are incredibly popular. There are also games with crazy intrusive DRM like kernel level spyware and always online DRM that are still installed by millions. How can you look at these stats and not think people are fine with paying for temporary games? If the game is good enough, players don't care. Ubisoft's problem is their games aren't good enough.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Making good games is probably not as easy as it seems though.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

you seem to be 300x more knowledgeable than the suits that run these companies

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shareholders need to get confortable not owning the value of their share.
Seriously, it in the name: they hold shares not their value.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

They should also get comfortable paying taxes when the of their shares increases. (If only that were true...)

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 months ago (1 children)

CEO's need to get comfortable not owning anything anymore

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

CEOs need to get comfortable with not existing.

CEO at my job can’t even do the most menial task in the warehouse. Companies will be fine without their posh little darlings

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 months ago

Shitty companies need to get used to loosing money

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The 5 year price graph is much nicer to view.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

I originally used the 5 year one but I thought it wouldn't be as "accurate" to their most recent disasters

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ubisoft will look up and shout “save us!”

And we will whisper

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why'd you post a picture of my parents arguing about me under the word no?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ali I see is a "pretty butterfly"

[–] MajinBlayze 16 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Pretty sure it's a hip bone X-ray of someone without a spine

[–] ZeroTwo 12 points 2 months ago

I think you're right but you missed the Pawn piece stuck up their ass.

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[–] Glifted 57 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I want to be optimistic that the industry will learn from these failures but they only ever seem to learn the wrong lessons

[–] UnderpantsWeevil 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

UbiSoft will fail and get bought up by Microsoft, who will have learned the exact opposite lesson because their stock price went up.

Meanwhile, Larian will keep churning out bangers until someone eventually offers the owners a too-stupid-amount-of-money to turn down, and then it will be folded into the enshitificatio engine, too. Or they'll release a flop, lose access to low-interest loans, and collapse under their own weight. Thus proving good games aren't worth the risk to make.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Of course I'm really not a fan of whatever they do and I would never buy an Ubisoft game for at least a decade now, but I still think that a lot of people should don't know what buying means and that they never, ever bought (and hence owned) a game or movie. Those are not material goods like a car, which you can physically transfer from one person to another. Those are intellectual goods, and ownership here means you own all rights for it, which usually only the publisher has. What you buy online or in a shop is mere a license to watch/play/use/whatever and a medium with the associated data (like a DVD).

Therefore "piracy" had never been theft (or robbery, as it is called so nicely on German news). It is a license violation. Just that doesn't sound as demonizing as the publisher want it to sound.

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 44 points 2 months ago

Investors: You didn't do it sneaky enough! Shhhh

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure their recent stock drop has more to do with them releasing a bad game based on a dying IP than on what an exec said months ago.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't know it's a bad game since I won't buy it because of what an exec said months ago.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Given how often we see games selling extremely well even after the companies behind them do awful stuff you're in a very small minority.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

I may be. I don't care though. Every shit move they make will make more people like me and eventually the message will be heard. When their stock tanks like this, there will be changes.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The announcement of the game left an extremely bad impression too, because the game was $60 or $70 but didn't include all the content, there were three other tiers or "editions" you could buy, the last option being the $8 subscription service that had a shiny blue border around it and included all the content.

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[–] Bruncvik 32 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I call this "The curse of Might and Magic". This franchise was established by Jon Van Caneghem who founded New World Computing. The company later got into financial trouble and was absorbed by 3DO. Over time (mainly due to the commercial failure of its console, which came after the acquisition of the M&M property), 3DO started slipping into the hole. It dissolved, and in its fire sale, Ubi purchased the rights to Might and Magic. The rest, as they say, is history...

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago

Shareholders need to get comfortable not buying a new yacht

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

I was a huge fan of Ubisoft. I basically stopped playing any of their games after Assassins Creed 3, with the exception of AC: Black Flag, which I got from the high seas, ironically.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (21 children)

Question, is buying games on Steam "owning"?

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Depends on the game.

There's a surprisingly large amount of games on steam that are DRM free, meaning once downloaded, running the game doesn't actually require steam.

[–] FelixCress 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They should all be like this.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That is the main selling point of GOG

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[–] Broken_Monitor 17 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Buy games on GoG when you can

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

I prefer to buy from Steam because they allow me to play my games easily and invest time and money in Linux which results in more freedom for all gamers. I've been very disappointed with GoG's record on Linux.

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[–] Stovetop 13 points 2 months ago

Sadly no, your Steam account can be closed at any time and you have no recourse to access your purchased content if that happens. Likewise, Steam can suspend service and you lose access to your content as well.

But that's not just a Steam thing, it's digital media as a whole. Even a physical disc is not ownership, it's just a license to access the content it contains.

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