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Speaking for myself, my eyebrows are not raised. I remember reading that day that it was a shattered teleprompter or other shrapnel that nicked or sliced his ear, not that a bullet had passed through it. In any case, I personally don't quite understand the importance of the distinction. He was shot at either way, no? If it were a nick by glass I imagine it would've healed by now.
Edit: I forgot to mention... Fuck Trump and his ilk, they deserve being two-time losers come November.
Getting hit by a bullet makes it more dramatic and makes him more of a martyr for his rabid cult fans. If it didn’t hit him then there’s always the hint of the question - “was he the actual target?”. Which makes him less important to his fans.
It was just a mass shooting: you know, the thing that keeps happening in America that no one cares about...
FBI officially stated that it was a bullet, not shrapnel, after expressing initial uncertainty plus unhealthy 78 year olds heal slowly, hence the raised eyebrows.
Probably he was legit shot at - I think it's irrational to believe it was staged with the evidence we currently have - but fascists love false-flag and staged attacks. Hitler's Reichstag Fire, Putin's Russian Appartment Bombings are two recent examples. Even Pisastratus, the 5thC BCE tyrant of Athens staged a fake attack on himself to generate sympathy and justify an armed guard which he then used to seize the acropolis.
So I can definitely see why eyebrows raise quickly when a would be tyrant is suspiciously unscathed.
“What struck former President Trump in the ear was a bullet, whether whole or fragmented into smaller pieces, fired from the deceased subject’s rifle,” the agency said in a statement.
They're saying it could have been a fragment of a bullet, which would qualify as shrapnel. They're not using that word.
You might not understand the importance of the distinction, but Trump does in his messaging.
In an interview with The New York Post in the days after the shooting, Trump said that a bullet had hit him, taking a chunk out of his ear.
"The doctor at the hospital said he never saw anything like this, he called it a miracle," he said. "I'm not supposed to be here, I'm supposed to be dead."
He's touting this as an honest to God miracle that he survived. His followers have said God personally intervened to spare Trump, which strengthens their belief that he's some sort of holy figure destined to rule. If it turns out that he was scratched by some shrapnel and not shot, that doesn't sound nearly as divine-interventiony.
Is it very stupid that Souza's account was deleted for this picture?
Yes.
Is Trump a nonstop POS liar?
Also yes.
Is it possible Trump got astoundingly lucky, and the bullet just barely grazed the top of his earlobe, and this would cause the amount of blood seen, and basically just a superficial scratch?
Again, yes.
This kind of wound is typically called a 'graze'. It is consistent with the trajectory the shooter was firing from and the direction Trump was facing.
There is another bandage pic of Trump with more localized bandaging which to me indicates the bullet likely just barely grazed the top rear ish of his upper earlobe:
Could it possibly have been caused by shrapnel or fragments of a teleprompter or some other object?
Yes, but, in the case of shattering teleprompter glass, shattered glass fragments are generally more rough and jagged surfaces than a spinning bullet, which on average would lead to an even more fucked up wound and more blood.
I keep hearing this claim that the teleprompter shattering was what actually caused the wound, despite the picture of what seems to literally be the bullet and it warping the air passing in an exact trajectory that would align with an astoundingly lucky and light graze.
Are there pictures, video, audio showing the teleprompter shattered, or being shattered?
Pete Souza posted on Instagram that he suspended his Twitter account himself. Apparently he was receiving a lot of hate (big surprise) and also drew fire inadvertently to the photographer of the photo
"Free speech is the most important thing... But if you call me out on my bullshit I'll kill your fucking family"
-these people
That's all fine. But also, Trump could and should just release the record of the medical visit. That would quiet a lot of this down. The outrage comes from the "oh my god I was shot with a bullet" and the "look how strong I am" vibe trump is giving off while also not releasing any real evidence aside from the footage of the day.
But I would suspect all of that to be intentional. A void of information creates a vacuum that fills with misinformation and speculation and that causes discourse which is all trump wants.
There's a frame showing both teleprompters intact after he was shot
A picture taken after the attempt showed that both teleprompters were in tact
Souza deleted his own account.
https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4798519-former-white-house-photographer-deletes-x-account/
There's just no fucking way his ear was hit by .223 (let alone the hotter 5.56) and there's still an ear left.
There would be a hole and massive damage, at least. Most likely just a twisted stump.
It's much more likely that someone scratched it with their fingernail in the chaos and it just bleed a lot because: adrenaline of being shot at, adrenaline of a rally, how high blood pressure is in the ear, and how blood thinners making even a small scratch look like a murder scene.
If he'd really have been shot there'd never have been a bandage and trump wouldn't go anywhere without 15 doctors in tow to explain how brave and strong he is to survive a gunshot wound.
At minimum he was struck by glass. His reaction was instantaneous with the shots and clearly he was reacting to being hit in the ear. It could have just been reacting to a close fly by at his ear, except the chances of him then being injured and bleeding from the same ear from an agent are slim to none. But however he was injured, it clearly wasn't much of an injury regardless.
It would be kind of a moot point as he WAS shot at and injured, and a bystander and the shooter were both killed. Those are the important facts here. But then Trump had to throw a fit over the FBI saying they weren't sure he'd actually been struck by a bullet or by shrapnel. He made such a stink out of it that now that he was clearly barely injured, it just makes him look silly and egotistical (go figure!) for so vehemently insisting he was hit with a bullet.
I think you overestimate the size and power of a 5.56 round. Much of the destructive force comes from speed and the area it hits - such as the chest or hips. Bones can cause it to ricochet and spin, causing cavitation and greater destruction.
They can leave a tiny entrance wound. With how thin the ear is, it's unlikely to have left an exit wound any larger than the entrance. It may have even hit the tip of the ear.
Either way, I think there would still be a visible wound unless it just nicked the tip of the ear. The bleeding may be due to blood thinners or something, considering his cardiovascular health.
Much of the destructive force comes from speed
You should've stopped there.
If it had hit his ear, it would have ripped a chunk of the ear off, not just caused a scratch that was unnoticeable days later. This isn't the first time he's been seen without a bandage. He was photographed like a day later and it was fine.
I think there would still be a visible wound unless it just nicked the tip of the ear
You're missing the point.
The bullet "nicking" his ear isn't possible because (due to speed) it would have ripped a chunk off.
The bullet "nicking" his ear isn't possible because (due to speed) it would have ripped a chunk off.
Please demonstrate this. If a paper target can get hit by these rounds every day in target practice and not get blown to pieces, why would an ear (especially if the ear was only “nicked” by the bullet) be any different?
Bullets can lacerate tissue without causing crazy destruction. A wound less severe than this on the tip of the ear could be healed within 2 weeks or however long it's been.
In case it gets taken down completely:
There have been re-creations on YouTube with ballistics gel and pig ears showing what happens to an ear shot by an AR-15 round, I'm not going to lay judgement, just watch the video:
Ballistics gel (language):
https://youtu.be/FsvJzfXZI18#t=6m59s
Pig ears:
There's pictures of right after that show his ear...
No bullet wound. Just what seems like an insane amount of blood... If you've never seen an excited elderly person on blood thinners get the smallest scratch imaginable.
As an excited elderly person on blood thinners, I absolutely get that. "Hey! Where'd all this blood come from! Oh, wait!"
My dad carried one of those little tubes of super glue...
Bandaids were a waste of time, if he got a cut on his hand he'd just immediately glue it shut.
Thats what super glue was originaly designed as, quick-setting liquid bandages. It also just happens to stick to just about everything else as well.
Just gonna leave this here, and additionally note that Trump was heavily involved with professional wrestling for YEARS
I still expect Trump's ear wound appearance was fixed with cosmetics, I mean why wouldn't they? He doesn't want to look like Frankenstein. I got downvoted to hell in another thread for posting that though.
Are you insane? There is no way Trump would pass up that sort of imagery.
Why wouldn't they? Because they want to sell the strong tin leader narrative. I'm surprised he took the bandage off. I'm surprised he isn't wearing a T-shirt with his little PR photo tiny-handed fist in the air. I'm sure he asks his sycophants if it looked more manly than the photo of shirtless Putin riding a stallion.
Since his base is so evangelical, sometimes a bible quote is apt:
And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Enough has been said - sense and nonsense - about the facts and particulars of this. I just want to add one thing:
The image, taken by Alex Brandon of the Associated Press
Let's go, Brandon.
"Jesus was a healer and he healed Trump" narrative incoming. Kamala being the new nominee stole all his thunder anyways, so who cares?
Musk can and will have his database team wipe accounts and posts from behind the scenes without making it appear like the user was banned.
Donald Trump photo without eyebrow bandage raises ears.
I hate to defend Trump, but as someone who had a cartilage piercing accidentally torn out, I can attest to the insane amounts of blood that can come from a rather small ear wound.
A bit conspiratorial. A very minor gunshot wound can heal within weeks according to Google, and the ear has so many bits in it which seem to pop and make a lot of blood easily enough. You even saw the blood on the live footage as well as the photos taken, so I don't see how he could have faked it
Anyone else just kind of forget about the assassination attempt? I guess that goes in line with Trump always doing new bullshit that nothing sticks, it's become so common that even the assassination attempt doesn't really feel notable already.
Has it been determined that he most likely was hit by a bullet vs. shrapnel?
The FBI said it was a bullet.
Not sure why this was downvoted. That's what I heard too. FBI said it was a bullet or bullet fragment. They don't seem to think it's from something else like teleprompter glass. He probably just barely got hit with a tiny fragment.
Duh! One of the great benefits of skin suits is how easy they are to repair.
I've seen a lot of spinals, dude... And this guy's a fake. A fucking gold bricker.
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