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[–] wwaxen 160 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Time for malicious compliance: "Kids, today we're talking about two girls got their dad drunk and raped him to get pregnant.

[–] FlyingSquid 84 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They'll have to be more creative, because the demand is for teachers to tell kids about the Bible's place in U.S. history.

So I think teaching them about this might be more appropriate: https://www.npr.org/2018/12/09/674995075/slave-bible-from-the-1800s-omitted-key-passages-that-could-incite-rebellion

They might also teach about this man: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Coughlin

[–] orclev 75 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Or how about how the bible was used as an excuse to try to keep Americans dumb and ignorant. An excellent example of exactly where the Bible fits into American history.

[–] FlyingSquid 19 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately, these people don't believe in evolution either.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

You say "was" like it's not ongoing.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Some neighboring states that aren't christo-fascist are about to get some really good teachers. Welcome to Colorado!

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[–] Brunbrun6766 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So I have friends in Texas who have lost their license for one reason or another. This has a wider range of effect than most realize. When applying for ANY other state licensing, in any other industry, the fact that your teaching license was revoked, no matter what the reason was (it won't say why on reports) it's a mark against you when applying for others. All they see is oh this person HAD a state license and it got revoked so, maybe we shouldn't grant this other one.

[–] FlyingSquid 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's plainly illegal, and I'm sure the goal is for SCOTUS to take it up and make it legal.

[–] ccunning 37 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It’s plainly illegal

SCOTUS will just ignore any precedents and give the states the right to do what they want.

We’ve already seen this playbook in action.

We’ve been fools for relying on precedent.

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That is certainly their hope. And there is no question it will happen if Trump gets back in.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Reading the Memorandum, it doesn't specify what Bible is to be used. Perhaps malicious compliance uses a "alternative" version?

Also found this from the Satanic Temple (who hopefully is on top of this) -

If a public school permits the distribution of religious materials to the student body, they have opened a limited public forum and are obligated to allow religious materials from other faiths. This principle applies to other forms of school-sponsored religious expression as well.

Also funny how these hypocrites go on and on about indoctrination, and then want to indoctrinate every kid in the state by law.

[–] FlyingSquid 24 points 4 months ago

It's always projection.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What good does dumbing them down by defunding education have if you don't indoctrinate the new cattle?

They're farming GOP idiots.

Keep em poor, uneducated and breeding without a way to abort and in the future no contraception

[–] Snowclone 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's always projection.

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[–] Viking_Hippie 46 points 4 months ago

The goal is, here, to have an accurate view of American history

By teaching bronze age fairy tales set in the Middle East.

[–] EnderMB 45 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Surely this could backfire in so many hilarious ways?

  • Teach the parts that conservatives don't do, and teach your class to call out injustice everywhere.
  • Teach the bible in Aramaic or Ancient Hebrew, and give the kids 30 mins of study time to learn whatever they want from it.
  • Use it as an exercise to teach that many parts were written thousands of years ago, and doesn't have current medical or societal advancements, so that many parts might be up to interpretation.
  • Compare it to Islam, Judaism, and other sects of Christianity - and teach that they're basically the same thing and that everyone should get along.
  • Reference that the pope said years ago that even nonbelievers that led a good life would be offered a seat in heaven, so be nice and it'll all be fine.
[–] huzzahunimpressively 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also you should explain to your child students what is a prostitute

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (15 children)

The funny thing is that a basic understanding of the Bible is actually important for making sense of American history - the people making that history were strongly influenced by the Bible and so unless you know at least the major "plot points", their actions (and a lot of literature) won't make much sense.

With that said, I don't trust Oklahoma to teach about the Bible in a manner appropriate for historical analysis rather than religious dominance.

[–] FlyingSquid 31 points 4 months ago (11 children)

he people making that history were strongly influenced by the Bible

Depends what era you're talking about and what you mean by influence. I would say that the reason Thomas Paine's Age of Reason was so popular and that Jefferson made his own version of the New Testament, which removed the supernatural, suggest that the Bible was less of an influence in the founding of the nation than would be supposed here. The fact that Muhammad is in as venerated a place on the Supreme Court building as Moses also suggests they didn't think it was the source of all wisdom.

Really, you need to look no further than our legal system though to see how little influence the Bible and Christianity actually have. I don't just mean the First Amendment, I mean the fact that our whole system is basically a gradual evolution from the laws of Ancient Rome. They had trial by jury in Ancient Rome. It was a permanent jury, not a jury of one's peers, but you can see the skeleton of our legal system and how it came from those ancient heathens, not Jesus.

[–] NOT_RICK 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Thank you for that. Incidentally, I have never heard for a big push from Muslims to remove Muhammad from the building, or at least obscure his image. I'm not sure if that's because they aren't aware of it or just because it is too old to do anything about it at this point.

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[–] zazilicious 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm so fucking tired of the US. Shit just always seems to get worse, and for every little victory, we take another huge leap towards a fascist theocracy.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Teachers can make this backfire by teaching kids about how Jesus said, among other things:

  • Rich people don't go to heaven
  • Jesus's answer to religious people not wanting to see things was for the people complaining to pluck out their eyes.
  • How Jesus told his followers to sell their shit and give it to the poor.

All things republicans hate because it goes against their ideals. Also they can talk about how in Acts it says Christians lived communally or just read James 5:1-6 verbatim.

But I guarantee the schools will force their teachers only to read parts of the bible that the state demand, because it's not about Christianity, it's about using religion to control people.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago

Oh just fuck off.

[–] Mediocre_Bard 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Can I teach ANY part of the bible?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

I’m waiting for the malicious compliance stories. Any Oklahoma teachers reading, maybe reach out to The Satanic Temple for ideas.

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[–] AA5B 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

they’d face the same consequences as one who refuses to teach about the Civil War

Now I’m really afraid to find out what this includes

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago

Which is a hilarious Freudian slip on their part. Who is it that they think don't want to teach about the Civil War? Could it be the ones who instead refer to it as the "war of northern aggression" and try to erase the context of slavery by saying it was about "states rights"?

[–] AncientMariner 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

What they failed to realise is teachers can have a unique ability to make kids hate a subject.

If you force them to do it, they can do it really badly without it being obvious.

I can imagine reading the Bible word for for in monotone from day 1 won't be a good experience.

[–] RagingRobot 16 points 4 months ago

Just read only the parts about incest and rape and waiting for all the parents to complain

[–] SpiceDealer 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

Any of you remember Kitzmiller v. Dover? It was a case that essentially ruled that teaching ID/creationism was a theological doctrine and thus couldn't be included in the biology curriculum of schools across the country. While the issues here at not the same (teaching creationsim vs mandatory bible studies), they have the same ideological underpinnings. Unless we're talking about Sunday school*, schools must remain secular institutions where discussions of religions are from a neutral perspective in regards to the humanities. As to regards to a hypothetical Supreme Court case: considering how ultra-conservative the Supreme Court has become in recent years, I fear that they might side the theocrats.

*Are those still a thing?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Oh I can’t wait for the lawsuits to follow this bullshit.

[–] Chocrates 15 points 4 months ago (5 children)

I'm still pissed we are spending tax payer money defending this shit. We are doing something similar in La.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So it can get to the Supreme Court and be overturned there?

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[–] dhcmrlchtdj__ 15 points 4 months ago

And this is the same cunt that was blaming "the radical left" for "politicizing" the death of a child under his care. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/23/us/oklahoma-nonbinary-student-superintendent.html

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Today we read again from fiction.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

I'd love to see parents flabbergasted by their children refusing the shellfish daddy worked hard to buy, and making sure their clothes don't use mixed fabrics.

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